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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You should be trying to get them to stay. That is S Arlington’s only hope![/quote]

How do they help the schools? If they're just going to opt out rather than help integrate, why in the world should we care about keeping them?[/quote]

It's like you're responding to a completely different comment. They help the schools [b]if they stay[/b], so you should be trying to get them to stay.

Your attitude towards these people is irrelevant - they exist, and further they are acting rationally. This is the prisoner's dilemma: if everyone chose to send their kids to the neighborhood school, everyone would have the best outcome. But since you get screwed if you decide to send your kid to the school, and other people don't, then it's completely rational to opt out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

You can't just complain and judge people because they don't send their kids there. Instead, try to figure out how to get over the hump where a critical mass will decide to stay. This isn't an easy problem, but it's pointless to just say "we don't need them" because actually you do need them.

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The problem with this argument is that a whole bunch of them on here are clamoring for more option schools to get them out as the only real solution. That doesn't keep families in neighborhood schools, by definition it is the exact opposite. We have enough option schools already, more isn't going to make these problems better. We have already covered strategically locating the option schools we have, and I agreed with that. So unless there is some third unspoken possibility out there that you're referring to I have no idea what we're arguing about.[/quote]

Is it school within a school time?

Let's face it - most of us can't move. Sure, some people have tons of equity and can move. Or maybe they like 66. The rest of us though, are staying. Choice would be great, but if not, we're going to the neighborhood school. And cram school on the weekends.[/quote]

Didn't we just abandon that at Drew? [/quote]

Good point. Did Drew gentrify enough?[/quote]

God no. But there are some community activists in Nauck who believe that was that only thing holding them back. I expect them to be putting up the biggest fight during the redraw. [/quote]

Yes, I think there is some truth to that. Nauck activists did a good job of airing the dirty secret that the small traditional elementary program at Drew had test scores more dreadful than most can imagine. The arlnow story had the details. But aps was reporting school level stats, which meant the poor performance was being hidden by the better performing, much larger montesorri program.  It's baffling why any parent in Nauck wouldn't choose the montesorri program, since back then, they were guaranteed admission. So the trad program was likely disengaged parents who might not have known a much better option existed in the same building.

The other layer is the legacy of bussing. Montessori was there because of bussing. The neighborhood activists wanted the school back. I think they're prob in for a rude awakening in the years to come. I don't actually expect them to be very critical of potential boundaries this fall, since they've already got what they want - montessori out.[/quote]

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