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PP, I think I have clarified a lot. If you still do not understand, it might be time to simply say its not worth it for you to invest so much of your precious time to trying to figure Islam out! It makes sense to the millions of women that practice it, and thats all that matters.

I will try to answer your questions later tonight if no one else attempts to. It seems for every one question answered, you have ten more related and unrelated questions. I have never known anyone who disrespects a religion so much to invest so much in trying to understand it, and yet so unwilling to contact a scholar.   [/quote]
I think that every answer you gave made so little sense and had so many holes that additional questions to expose them simply asked themselves.

I will be a judge of what's a good and not good use of my precious time. I did not solicit your advice on that.

I have no doubt that it makes sense to women who practice Islam.  If you simply left it there, I would have applauded you. But you started from the position that it should make sense to everyone.  That's how the whole 45 pages came to be.

I fully believe you've never met anyone like me. That's because you've never known a non-Muslim who knows so much about Islam, is still not enamored by it, and can challenge your claims so successfully.   Mind you, I'm not trying to understand Islam any more than I already do, and I certainly don't think you're the person to advance my understanding.  I understand and know about it as much as any Muslim does; I just don't feel about it the way they do.[/quote]

Oh I know you did not solicit my advice. I am giving it anyway. :)

Did you really think I was under the impression people were enamored with Islam? Yes, Muslims generally are, but nonMuslims. As much as Muslims would like to dispel myths and do whatever necessary to create a more harmonious environment for themselves, I am not interested in impressing others. I am very secure in my faith.

As for your knowledge, sorry, but its google knowledge. You can not read the Quran in the language it was revealed and this prevents you from fully understanding verses you are confused about. Yet you refuse to contact a scholar to seek help.

For example, you insisted the oath administered to women was biased and discriminatory toward women because it was not administered to men. But I provided you with the sura/verse that showed men took the oath too. If you read the Quran, you would have known about that sura/verse already.

Another example, you asked why women were asked about illegitimate children but not men. Because women were sometimes putting responsibility on their lawful husbands and this was unfair given that paternity could not be determined.  Asking men would result in no information because there is no way to conclude their paternity. This knowledge comes with common sense.

You also concluded Islam never established voting rights but Ash Shurra did. You did not know that either because you either never read that sura or did not understand it. You also did not know the language used in the verse was plural, referring to both male and female.

A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing when you act as if your knowledge is complete. You need to study the Quran in Arabic and study the tafsir and then you could have saved 45 pages.

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