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Why do you keep pretending that this EO excludes just the illegals? Are you hoping it will make your argument stronger? The EO denies citizenship to children of people who are here legally if they are not citizens or permanent residents.[/quote]
That's a good thing - a tourist is here legally, but her baby born on the US soil will not automatically become citizen. The baby will have the same citizenship as mother/parents.[/quote]

+1. I said earlier that I don’t think the EO is legal and will almost certainly get tied up in court, but on the merits I think it is completely fine to have a policy that only the children of legal immigrants (permanent residents) or citizens are granted citizenship at birth. Basically every other developed country does it this way. I am totally okay with the children of tourists, student visa holders, and H1-B/non-immigrant visa holders not getting citizenship at birth. The child will have the same citizenship as their parents at birth, and if the family continues to live in the US and the parents are eventually naturalized, then the child will get citizenship then.

If the parents have no intention of staying in the US permanently or raising the child here, I think it’s actively preferable that the child is not given citizenship. I know someone who was born to Italian PhD students doing a postdoc in the US and was raised 100% in Italy, identifies as Italian, and has no real connection to the US besides the circumstances of his birth. IMO there is no reason for that person to be a citizen.[/quote]

A condition of these visas is a declared intent to return to their home countries.  So why would they want their children to be US citizens?  Or did they lie on their visa applications?  If they lied on their visa applications, they are not lawfully present.  [/quote]

H1 is a double intent visa.[/quote]

Fair point.  But their children born should be put in a similar visa category. And we should only grant visas to people whose countries would grant citizenship if an H1 holder has a child while abroad here in the United States. [/quote]

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