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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Harvard Business Review takes an evidence-filled bat to nearly every single YIMBY talking point. Just a complete takedown:

https://hbr.org/2024/09/the-market-alone-cant-fix-the-u-s-housing-crisis[/quote]

Did you miss the part of the article where they propose public housing projects and where restrictive covenants are criticized?

“But other restrictions are still commonly used and enforced, including ones that prevent the construction of multifamily housing, establish minimum lot sizes, and even restrict non-traditional households from living in a neighborhood. Often enforced by private homeowners’ associations, these covenants function as a form of private zoning, but enacted without public input.”[/quote]

DP. If you really want to lower housing costs, you’ll internalize the entire article instead of selectively quoting it. There’s a lot in there that is [b]contrary to YIMBY orthodoxy[/b] and other things that are contrary NIMBY orthodoxy. Both YIMBYs and NIMBYs have some good ideas, but the extremists who have dominated the discussion have delivered us the housing crisis. [/quote]

I know a lot of YIMBYs, and none of them believe that zoning changes, [i]alone[/i], will fix the housing crisis, or that the market, [i]alone[/i], will fix the housing crisis. Maybe there are some YIMBYs who believe that, but I don't know any.[/quote]

[b]Then why do they almost exclusively focus on this?  [/b]I think that it’s because it isn’t about housing at all, it’s based on some silly idea of exclusion, as if everyone should be able to live everywhere.  If you can’t, darn it, it’s just not fair, MOMMY![/quote]

They don't. Why do you not notice the other things they support?

Should everyone be able to live everywhere? I don't think that's the right question. The right question is: should the government allow all types of housing in areas with housing? In my opinion, the answer is: yes.

Finally, some advice you didn't ask for: if you try to portray millennials as children, that won't help you advocate for your point of view. Who is currently raising children in Montgomery County? Millennials.[/quote]

They don’t.  As a matter of fact [b]they argue amongst themselves[/b] about every other housing lever.  This is just the one silly thing that they agree on and for some reason have really decided is THE ONE.

I’m sorry, who said anything about millennials?  Millennials (and some GenX) compromise the majority of homeowners where I live, and they (for the most part) do not agree with this.

However, it is sort of funny that you projected that into your response.

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So you occasionally accept that they are not a monolithic group. Got it.

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True, but even your conservative analogues the MAGAs vary in style and substance, sometimes.  [b]However, what is very true is that the YIMBYs will burn their own as a witch if they dare to question the overall party line, upzoning included.[/b]  They disagree about rent control, for example, but no one really goes out on their own to disagree because they’ve learned how nasty the YIMBYs can be if you dare to question the hive mind, just like every other group (like the people that want AFFORDABLE housing) has found out in California and elsewhere.[/quote]

It is very true, if "very true" means "competely imaginary as imagined by you".[/quote]

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