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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The coop program has always seemed genuinely cool to me.

That said, in the areas I'm familiar with, the quality of the faculty are not remotely competitive with similarly-ranked universities.  And it is extremely common knowledge that the president spent years gaming the USNWR rankings in every way possible--the entire institution was organized around that goal.  It worked!  But I don't think it represented any big increase in quality, and the people I know who worked there during that era all despised the way it governed everything.

I would guess the popularity means that there's a much bigger market for coop type programs than people used to think.  And I definitely understand why many people would prioritize that over having access to "world class faculty" or whatever.  If your kid isn't going to do academic research, then the difference between the faculty at Northeastern and at Harvard is probably immaterial. [/quote]

The school has improved vastly in every way if that's what gaming is about. Who would be the best judge of the 'quality'? the industry and employers who are actually willing to pay for the products.  It looks like Northeastern's quality is highly respected.

There's a misunderstanding about coop at Northeastern. 
There are about 39 R1 private universities in the US, and Northeastern is one of them.
In case you don't what that is about,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_research_universities_in_the_United_States
It especially has high research activities in the areas of CS, engineering, STEM. 
For example, https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us   this ranking is based on research activities.
So there are plenty of research activities and students are involved in research.

Unless you are a trust fund kid, everyone is highly interested in internships these days.
Coop is basically an internship but with much more flexibility and better support from the school.
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Here's what the gaming is about. https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/
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well, that piece just confirms what I thought. 1996 = commuter school. I lived in Boston and coumd not understand the NEU booster here[/quote]

I guess you turn your nose up to Boston College also?  Because a couple of decades before Northeastern was a commuter school, so was BC.

https://beacon.bc.edu/the-long-view/

But by 1964, when he graduated, Pat had begun to see rapid change on the horizon with the opening of three residence halls—Roncalli, Williams, and Walsh—to accommodate the growing number of students who needed to live at the Heights.

“Boston College was considered a commuter school back then,” says Pat Stokes. “And now students come from across the country and all over the world,” he continues. “We have some of the top programs, and we are recognized throughout the United States.”
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Northeastern was not a commuter school in 1996.  Maybe in 1956 - I actually know someone who attended during that time. NEU was always a top engineering school and still is. In fact, BU has always been a commuter school, and MIT and Harvard both started as commuter schools.

It is not as if any of those are commuter schools current day, such as Mason.

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Did you even read the article? https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2014/08/26/how-northeastern-gamed-the-college-rankings/

"In 1996, Richard Freeland looked across the sea of crumbling parking lots that was Northeastern University and saw an opportunity few others could. As the school’s new president, [b]he had inherited a third-tier, blue-collar, commuter-based university[/b] whose defining campus feature was a collection of modest utilitarian buildings south of Huntington Avenue, with a sprinkling of newly planted trees."
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And now it is a vibrant, world-class university.  Is it shameful that they have improved so much?  Have you seen the new science building?
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2023/06/08/northeastern-university-exp-building.html

Why is it so bad that they have become such a prestigious university?  Does it hurt you personally?
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Only if I have to walk by and see that ugly building.

Northeastern is a fine school. But I wouldn't call it prestigious. Prestige and reputation is not built overnight by constructing new buildings, shuffling professors around to get the right class size, rejecting holistic admissions to gain the highest average SAT score, or going on whirlwind tours to promote your school to academia. No. Prestige is earned through years of consistent excellence. This formula feels shaky.  I think I other PPs on this thread agree that it has improved through all of those efforts, but that the "boosters" who try to take it a step further and claim prestige on the level of MIT and Harvard are just fooling themselves. That's why it is not a top 20 and never will be.[/quote]

It will never be a top 20?

It IS a top 20 by any objective measure. Its acceptance rate is lower than Harvard and the SAT scores are on par. [/quote]

Acceptance rate is not a measure of prestige. Popularity? Yes. Popularity is not a metric for the USNWR rankings.[/quote]

[b]NEU's acceptance rate is 3.4%

Harvard's is 5.6%.

By definition NEU is more selective.[/quote]
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And just when I thought this thread had died... NEU super booster busts through the wall like the Kool Aid Man... Oh Yeah![/quote]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you got trolled by an anti-NEU troll.  That's what this has come to.  The anti-NEU trolls are now trolling so much, they're knocking into and over themselves as they attempt to save the world...from I don't know what.[/quote]

Exactly. We are at yet another predictable part of the show where OP and company try to gaslight.  At least if OP and those like OP knew how to construct an argument, which they obviously do not know how to do, based on their multiple anti-NEU threads. They are too stupid to be embarrassed. [/quote]

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