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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.[/quote]

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.[/quote]

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).  [/quote]

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians. [/quote]

You are so completely full of sh*t!!

Trump would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin.

Whom do you think is behind Hamas' invasion of Israel? Whom do you think benefits most from this new Hamas-Israel war? Whom do you think continues to fund Iran who in turn funds Hamas?

Putin is Trump's best friend.

And you are going to vote to destroy Ukraine and allow Palestinians to be slaughtered because you're "whine, whine" upset with Biden?

I don't care what you do if it doesn't affect me, but if Trump wins because whiny complainers like you can't face the reality that Trump is tied to Putin who wants to destroy the US, well, I beg you to reconsider. [/quote]

If Trum would hand over Ukraine on a silver platter to Putin, why he didn't do that in 4 years of his presidency? Ukraine is already destroyed to ashes and it takes at least 20 years to rebuilt. And this destruction happened on Biden watch. And I am Ukrainian by the way.[/quote]

Trump was giving Ukraine to Russia peacefully. No need to invade. He was working to end NATO, he removed Masha Yovanovitch, the honest pro-Ukrainian anti-corruption US Ambassador, sent Giuliani and Sondland and Perry there to negotiate deals to allow corrupt Americans and Russian oligarchs take control of Ukrainian oil and gas, and he completely accepted Putin’s idiotic position that any place where Russian is spoken rightly belongs to Russia. His Ukraine policies represented Russia’s interests more than they represented U.S. interests. [/quote]

This is just CNN side of the story. There is much more to that. Calling Yovanovtch honest and anti-corruption is laughable. She was clueless how to deal with the Ukrainian level of corruption. [/quote]

You are delusional. She was outstanding representing U.S. interests and helping Ukraine adopt systems and practices that would enable them to increase their trade participation in the western economy. She was a career Foreign Service Officer who spoke Russian and had served with distinction as Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan and Armenia, posts that were at least as challenging as Ukraine. Trump sent Giuliani and Sondland and Perry, corrupt partisans who were an embarrassment to the United States, and did not know anything about Ukraine or Russia or U.S. policy and interests.

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dp. If you think that a large power like Russia will allow a bordering country to join NATO and EU, you are a delusional neocon. Trump was a terrible diplomat but [b]incredibly sane and shrewd militarily and strategically.[/b] The arrogance and delusions of neocons destroyed Ukraine, weakened Europe and accelerated US decline of power and influence. [/quote]
No, he wasn’t. He was Putin’s lap dog. He tried to blackmail Ukraine, remember?

Scratch that. I don’t think you do remember and your warped memory has created this weird bubble for you to live in. [/quote]

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