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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/[/quote] “By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers? Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025: +64 overall +50 female +14 male +46 hispanic +242% +37 white +26% +29 black +245% +8 other/mixed +26% -56 asian -26% +142 from underrepresented MSs -36 private school [/quote] And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?[/quote] Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold[/quote] +1 And something must be done about this![/quote] Keep going. This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court. You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter. But keep going. You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.[/quote] People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction. [/quote] People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy. If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to. Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction. There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way. [/quote] What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ? [/quote] There are enough ideas that have been thrown around including prior pages on this thread. A good place to start would be for the School Board to formally apologize for Braband's "pay to play" innuendos and reach out to the impacted communities (Asians as well as the school districts that have been impacted) and try to tap down the adversarial nature of the dialog. Most people (yes, Asians included) care for diversity and would listen. But all we see is liberal use of innuendos that Asians are cheats and resource hoarders. That does not create an environment where you get any moderate to collaborate. Solutions have been found for many more intractable problems. It needs leadership and we have none of that at FCPS. [/quote] So the right way is to do nothing and pretend there is no problem? Oh, and listen, but only if it isn't accompanied by action. [/quote] No, Most people will be on board with diversity. But, the issue is how fcps approached and implemented the problem. It was shady and shutdown any public dialog. There were objections/comments with in the board itself. Take for example, they knowingly undermined AAP by implementing quotas based on attending schools instead of base schools. They deliberately flattened out GPA (or unweighted), which actually makes it a disadvantage for kids who takes tougher courses. In addition, the cumulative GPA of 1.25 years worth of course work given same points as one single essay kids write in 30min. If this is not enough, they then played with bonus points (a.k.a 'other experience' (??) factors) to figure how many points needs to be added to get the 'desired' effect. [b]It felt like intent wasn't really to cut down all of asians. It was only to hurt specific group of kids who come from academic focused families, likely in AAP, focus on courses/grades etc and guess what asians represent a significant percent of this group. [/b] I don't mind removing test that can be prepped or not giving any weight to cookie cutter or expensive extra curricular activities that only certain kids can take advantage of. Diversity is good, but do not make deliberate changes to undermine/hurt specific groups of population. This is what makes it annoying and frustrating. All they need to do is remove the weightage to any factors that are not available to all the kids and then do a fair evaluation on top of that. [/quote] True, if you dig down all changes cumulatively had a single purpose, which is to intentionally hurt kids coming from middle/upper middle class families who tend to concentrate at AAP centers or 'good' schools. I wouldn't say that this is to hurt 'all' asians, but its no surprise that 'certain' asians represent a majority of the kids who are negatively effected. Imagine, all their advanced courses, grades etc get a max score of 300 points and one stupid science essay gets the equal treatment and so is the portrait sheet. Then a 'whopping' 300 points are given to 'other experience' factors. So, these kids who do not qualify for any of these experience factors have a max score of 900 out of total 1200 points. Can anyone honestly tell me if this is not intentional and well thought out plan to hurt these specific kids? I honestly don't understand why everyone is ok with it and don't understand the implications. [/quote] The point is not to HURT AAP kids, it's to HELP kids who might not have been identified as AAP kids or who have come into their own as students after they had an opportunity to be identified for AAP - "late bloomers". It is also well-established on this board that the AAP process is entirely gameable by families with resources.[/quote] At least in my kids elementary school, every year, there will be few principal placements into AAP (4th, 5th or even 6th grade) or advanced math based on how the kids are performing. My daughter said one of her friends who is currently not in AAP, but will likely be placed into AAP next year if she continues to do well in her 4th grade. My neighbors kid got placed into Level IV (or advanced math? - I know he took IOWA test) in 6th grade. So, I think teachers do spot talent and move the kids up if they see the potential. In my opinion AAP kids, especially from north west fairfax county are definitely getting hurt. [/quote]
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