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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]TJ's racist policy that your tax dollars is defending cut the Asian entry by half

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2022/04/fairfax-co-schools-defends-admissions-policy-at-thomas-jefferson-hs/[/quote]

“By half”? Guess you’re not so good with numbers?

Recap of admission #s from 2024 to 2025:
+64 overall

+50 female
+14 male

+46 hispanic +242%
+37 white +26%
+29 black +245%
+8 other/mixed +26%
-56 asian -26%

+142 from underrepresented MSs
-36 private school
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And despite that TJ is still over 50% Asian right?[/quote]

Yup. Headline: Group That Is Over-Represented Threefold Thinks It’s Racist That They’re No Longer Over-Represented Four-Fold[/quote]

+1 And something must be done about this![/quote]

Keep going.  This "racial balancing" motivation is what is being questioned by the court.  You can have a great outcome but if the process to get there is not constitutional then it does not matter.  But keep going.  You guys dont care how unfair/unconstitutional a process is as long as it gets your goals.[/quote]

People have *repeatedly* pointed out that the approach sucked but the outcome is a step in the right direction.

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People have *repeatedly* pointed out that ends do not justify the means in any modern democracy.  If that does not sink in from a constitutional perspective, let me give you something you can relate to.

Even if you catch a murderer red-handed and dont follow due process like reading the Miranda rights, you will not get the conviction.

There are many on this forum who are on board with increasing diversity at TJ but you have to do it the right way. [/quote]

What is the right way to increase diversity at TJ? [/quote]

Define diversity - if you do it by skin color, you've already lost the argument. Prove that TJ is not diverse; again if you come up with a race chart, you've already lost. [/quote]

And attituteds like that are why the school is going to end up closed or as an academy [/quote]

In other words, you are either unable to or unwilling to even define diversity except in a racist way, and would rather that a school close down than have it not be involved in implementing your desired racist policies. [/quote]

You've solved the problems. No black kids at a school isn't an issue if mentioning that there are no black kids at the school is racist. Congratulations.  [/quote]

That's not what I said. If you can tie the lack of black kids at a school to explicitly racist policies, such as affirmative action, or facially neutral policies implemented with racist intent, like the new TJ admission policies, then we can absolutely work together to remove those barriers to black kids. Absent such evidence, it's improper to identify racial disparity as a "problem" that needs solving. [/quote]

You have failed at every turn here, both in defining the situation and in defining the appropriateness of solving it. But I'll play your game, if only because it's satisfying to defeat you on your own illegitimate turf.

Black and Hispanic families in the Northern Virginia area are significantly less wealthy by every reasonable measure than white and Asian families, and ESPECIALLY those white and Asian families who historically attend TJ. This is not up for debate.

Standardized exams of all types significantly favor those families with the resources to prepare for those exams - this isn't up for debate either. And it becomes even MORE the case when the school system chooses a secured exam that isn't supposed to have any available resources for prep - in that case, expensive prep with privileged access becomes even MORE valuable.

Therefore, engaging in an admissions process that uses relative (importantly, not absolute, but relative) performance on a standardized exam both as a gatekeeper for eligibility (as was the case in the semifinalist process) and for eventual selection (as evidenced by the huge delta in semifinalist scores and offered scores) is pretty [b]explicitly racist[/b].

You're done. Go home.[/quote]

LMAO. All that chest-puffing and don't even understand the definition of explicit.

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No, I do. It's explicit because everyone in academia KNOWS that standardized [b]exams are problematic along both racial and socioeconomic lines[/b].

You want to play with the lines between implicit and explicit racism. Doing that in bad faith is explicitly racist.[/quote]

That's not the definition of explicit racism. You are wasting everyone's time insisting that it is. Reality does not care about the distortion field inside your head. [/quote]

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