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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wouldn't bank on Class of 2021 being an outlier

It is more likely that the novel criteria for admission applied to this HS graduating class  will be a social experiment that Universities use moving forward to revamp BOTH whether to go forward with SAT/ACT

OR Can it

AND, whether it pans out that admitting the highest percentage of URMs, 1st generation college students, women to STEM majors and non-legacy admits with no SAT scores produces an equal or higher class of 2025 Graduation , Grad school acceptance, percent hired after graduating with a 4 year degree

not to mention student debt to 1st 5 years after graduating college salary

Or whether, they fail, drop out and these schools should have stuck with the SAT as an indicator

Too rich a social experiment to just tick it off as a " one off" , but likely any reform than comes from it won't affect HS class of 2022- but maybe HS class of 2028/ today's middle school students[/quote]

Can someone translate this gibberish?[/quote]

I’m not the poster but read it again- it makes perfect sense and I think it’s spot on.[/quote]
DP and no it doesn't. I thought I was following until the last sentence. In order to make sense of the words you have to imply a lot of meaning that is not articulated. Furthermore, it is unclear what "student debt to 1st 5 years" is referring.[/quote]

OK, I’ll try again :

If you read or have access to Ivy Admit stats for class of 2021, much of which is publicly shared by the schools you will see some unique stAts for this years HS Senior admits . These stats are:

1) Ivy League took highest percentage ever of URM, particularly Native American and AA than ever in history

2) Ivy took highest percentage of female applicants than in history, particularly in STEM majors

3) for 1st time in decades no one had to submit SAT / ACT scores to gain any of these admissions so, since the SAT has been used for decades to gauge admit worthiness as - supposedly it predicted academic success in college , it will be interesting to see how this uniquely chosen future class of 2025 college grads from Ivy fares

Meaning, will ditching the SAT as a vetting tool backfire ( meaning of a large portion of class of 2021 Ivy admits who did not submit SAT scores don’t graduate , drop out or flunk out - that would indicate dropping SAT requirement was a mistake . Conversely, if these class of 2021 Ivy admits ( sans SAT score ) do just as well as prior decades of kids subjected to testing, that might bode well for permanently ditching the SAT, ACT and AP tests

Other common indicators of positive college outcome ( after admission ) are salary 5 years out of college and percentage of debt relative to annual salary of those grads 5& 10 years post graduation

So, rather than saying class of 2021 will be just a forgotten outlier in which admit rates were more competitive than prior years for non URM, male and legacies and that this will never be repeated again- I would caution you that the IVY league has just created a study class and the outdo ones from it in terms of graduation rates from those Ivys in 4 years will probably heavily impact future policy decisions regarding SAT/ ACT , gender and other affirmative action policies [/quote]

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