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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a huge delta between the top 3-5 GA clubs in the mid Atlantic and the bottom 7-9. Like two different leagues. So while ECNL > GA generally, the top of GA is equally if not more competitive than ECNL. [/quote]That’s fair. I think my main concern, pre ECNL parent, is that there is a lot less parity in GA so the lower half of games are much less competitive. That said, a lot of your season becomes playing non-competitive games. That feels like that would hold back growth and development. While yes, ECNL has bottom half teams, there is a lot more parity and thus, each game is still more competitive and thus, you are developing more.[/quote]

Yes. PP here and I agree with you. But that could be only 1-2 years away from changing if/as MLS pulls clubs away from ECNL and thus GA gets a windfall. Not saying it will happen, but just that it could because there is nothing inherently superior about ECNL over GA. There are a TON of terrible ECNL clubs out there. Only the top 100 or so are competitive. That number for GA is presently about 60. [/quote]

just taking a look at the top 25 on the soccer app rankings of how many GA teams were ranked in the top 25? I listed the number of ga teams in each age group for the top 25 below. the remainder are ECNL.  facts matter

U19 -  6
U17 - 4
U16 -  3
U15 - 6
U14 -  0
U13 -  3[/quote]

The issue with using the Soccer Rankings app as some definitive way to determine the ECNL vs GA league strength argument is that the methodology isn’t league-neutral. The rankings are heavily driven by strength of schedule algorithms and opponent weighting.

When ECNL teams play other highly ranked ECNL teams, those wins and losses recycle value back into the ECNL ecosystem. Meanwhile, GA teams often don’t get the same weighting because the algorithm already assumes ECNL competition is stronger based on historical interconnected results. That creates a feedback loop.

So when someone says “only X GA teams are in the Top 25,” they’re ignoring how the rankings are built in the first place. It’s not an equal playing field mathematically.

The app itself even emphasizes opponent quality, strength of schedule, and predictive algorithms as core components of rankings.

That means:
- An ECNL win over another ECNL team is inherently valued higher.
- GA teams have fewer opportunities to gain algorithmic momentum.

So yes, facts matter. But methodology matters too. If the weighting system favors ECNL match networks, then using those rankings alone as proof of league superiority is incomplete analysis.[/quote]

Need more chances for leagues to compete against each other. ECNL shelters rankings by having a few extra showcases to make extra money vs giving ECNL teams opportunity to play other leagues...WAGs...Jeff Cup..etc...[/quote]

not really.  ecnl doesn't need to play ga teams, too many easy wins.  better to just scrimmage their RL teams[/quote]

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