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O Prophet! When believing women come to you to give you the Bai'a (pledge), that they will not associate anything in worship with Allah, that they [b]will [/b]not steal, that they [b]will [/b]not commit illegal sexual intercourse, that they [b]will [/b]not kill their children, that they [b]will[/b] not utter slander, intentionally forging falsehood (i.e. by making illegal children belonging to their husbands), and that they [b]will[/b] not disobey you in any Ma'ruf (Islamic Monotheism and all that which Islam ordains) then accept their Bai'a (pledge), and ask Allah to forgive them, Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 
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Different PP here. Bai'a definitely means pledge, and it's used to refer to various types of pledges elsewhere in the Quran, like before a big battle.

But what are these women pledging to? They don't appear to be pledging to Mohammed himself. Instead they are "pledging" that they will not commit certain specified acts of fornication or infanticide that are unislamic. Take out the comma after "(pledge)," and this is even more obvious (wonder how well that comma translates). Then Mohammed accepts their pledge (to not fornicate).

So this doesn't seem like these women are choosing (voting for) a leader at all - they are pledging/agreeing to abide by Islam's rules for women.

Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe you already went over this.[/quote]

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