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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pp, if the Prophet questioned a man before taking the oath about illegitimate children, the man would need to know with certainty which illegitimate child was his. Given that adultery and fornication were common pre islam, tell me how the man would know which children were his.[/quote]

Shouldn't a man who fathered an illegitimate child with a married or unmarried woman be made to claim paternity of the illegitimate child?

Does the fact of fathering an illegitimate child disqualify you from converting to Islam, as it would the woman who bore the child?

What happens to the child in these cases?

Seems like both the man and the woman should have to swear, if establishing paternity is really so important. [/quote]

Tell me how the man would know which child was his if men and women were fornicating and engaging in adultery at the time. There was no DNA testing then.

You can not hold a man financially respinsible for a child without knowing with certainty it is the man's biological child. There was no proof back then.[/quote]
The man would know IF he slept with women other than his wife, and therefore had a shot at illegitimate children.

To turn this around - how would women know whose child it was if they were fornicating and engaging in adultery all the time?  If you sleep with two men around the same time, you don't ACTUALLY know whose child you are carrying.

But remember, though, we only have the Muslims' word that Arabia before Islam was a dark place. [/quote]

If a woman knew she was sleeping around, she would know at least that her children may not be her lawful husband's. And when coming to the Prophet to take the oath, she should not lie and say with certainty that they belonged to her husband because that would hold him financially responsible for them. The man could not say with certainty whose child was his. The woman can, however, say with certainty that the children belonged to her. And the Prophets tribe, or the islamic state, would provide for the children.[/quote]
Women weren't asked to say whose children were her husband's and which were her lover's.  They were asked to pledge they will not do it IN THE FUTURE. [/quote]

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