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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wondering why Columbia Prep and Grammar is not thought of as highly - they had exmissions to HYP this year, have a chess team that wins nationally, has an awesome advanced science research program, and seems like less of a pressure cooker compared to other schools. I read that they also have one of Princeton's college admissions deans joining as head of college counseling, so curious if their Princeton admissions rate will go up.[/quote]

I think we can't look at HYP individuals only, but really have to look at the percentage of students that succeed.

At TT schools like Dalton, 50% of graduates go to Ivies, 60% go to Ivies + Top 10 + T5 Lacs.
At Columbia Grammar, you may find a few individuals that go to HYP, but the matriculation results at large is not super impressive as TT schools.
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Columbia admissions is not competitive.   They accept most anyone that applies and can pay tuition.   Avenues is the same. [/quote]

Not sure about Columbia Grammar.  Avenues certainly the upper division is not easy to get into.  Several families we know of applied at 9th grade didn't get in.  They have about 45 spots at 9th grade.  Anyone didn't get into TT or boarding schools apply to Avenues, the acceptance rate is sub-10%.  [/quote]

I have never met one family that has not gotten into Avenues that has applied.  Most of the very motivated stand-out students take advantage of the unique immersion offerings in the lower school then move on to top tier schools at middle school.  They lose about 20 kids after lower school so 6th grade is an excellent time to apply to Avenues. While the curriculum, facilites and teachers are very good, the student body isn’t very scholarly. Nicer by a mile than Columbia Grammar, however.  
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This is all correct. [/quote]

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