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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Despite what's being posted here, the WH is definitely scarred and acknowledge how weak their position is

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/hillary-clinton-urges-joe-biden-not-to-sleep-on-third-party-spoilers[/quote]
“Despite what’s being posted here”? Honestly, I fear for the children of tomorrow when the Republicans of today have reading comprehension like yours. Because I’m a Democrat - a real one, not a MoDeRaTe - and I’m the one who has twice posted “Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein.” You know why? Because I understand that a spoiler doesn’t need to be huge in order to destroy progress. Too many people are way too stupid and will vote for Literally Any Corpse (R). To prevent fascism, to prevent the destruction of life as we know it, to prevent wars, we can’t afford to peel off votes for what is an obvious Kanye-for-President level BS gambit from the GOP. [/quote]

Your hyperbole is getting tiresome. Time to take a chill pill and work toward achievable solutions rather than name calling, which is off-putting to those moderates  and independents who the Dems need. I mean, you  slam Dems because you think they aren’t true Dems or Dem enough. Keep it up though if you want people to vote 3rd party. [/quote]

Voting no labels is voting for trump.  Stop treating posters like fools.  [/quote]
They’re not dumb like they’re trying to pretend. They just have to troll that hard to try to hide their love for the GOP and all their sick policies. [/quote]

Yes, yes, anyone who expresses a concern is a traitor.[/quote]
I mean, why express concern when we are so fortunate to have a likely rematch of the two greatest presidential candidates in American history? [/quote]

Whine and cry to all the voters that can't be bothered to vote in a primary.    The solution is not billionaires coming in to try to manipulate things to their liking with third party stunt.[/quote]

The solution certainly isn't hoping either party, one of them entirely lost to extremists and the other making alarming concessions to its own extremists, suddenly decides to correct its course and actually represent more moderate views. Many people are politically homeless. Deal with that instead of trying to browbeat anyone who dares question your Revolution. If Democrats need to hold onto my vote then return to moderate policies.[/quote]

Vote for trump or vote for no labels.  The effect is the same.[/quote]

Maybe No Labels can ultimately throw its weight behind Democrats if Democrats can re-commit to being sensible rather than Revolutionary? Because if you keep doing what you're doing and simply insulting anyone who disagrees with you, you will also be voting for Trump because too many moderates can't endorse some of your policies.[/quote]

No labels would only throw it's little weight to a Dem if that would help trump.  What are you not understanding about no labels?[/quote]

There is a real need for representation for moderates. No Labels has explanations other than dividing the vote.

Look how dogmatic you are... are you really prepared to work with people who want to consider things more carefully?[/quote]

Narrator: it is a bunch of right wingers, funded by right wing billionaires, pretending to be moderate.

Let's not fall for it.

Yes, we can consider things more carefully, and in considering "no labels" - it is sham meant to split votes away from the Democrats in order to secure right wing fascism, so just own it for what it is.[/quote]

No Labels has been around for a while.  It looks to consist of a mix of disaffected DLC Democrats who have banded together with some Never Trumpers more recently.  If you do not like the billionaires you assert without evidence are funding No Labels, then work at the grass roots level to find another candidate to replace Biden at the top of the ticket.  The No Labels folks have agreed to go away if that happens.  [/quote]

Short of incapacitation or death, there is no scenario where a party gives up the power of incumbency in a national election. It is a stupid stance to take to try to force the Dems to abandon Biden, particularly at this time when he is seen by global leaders as a voice of respect and wisdom as it relates to Russian aggression in Ukraine and by proxy, Israel.[/quote]
As much as I love and admire Biden's courage to do what he is doing at 80 years old, I have to disagree with your assertion that he is respected around the world. A big reason why there are currently two separate wars going on in regions of the world where the US have vested interests is because of the lack of respect for Biden. I really hate to say this and I know for sure Trump isn't an answer to this problem but we can't ignore the truth just because we have no better alternative to Biden going forward in 2024. It's a conundrum.[/quote]

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