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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s silly people think an SRO would have stopped this.[/quote] well, we will never know now. How many school shootings and/or arrest of a student who brought a gun to school has MCPS had, pre and post SRO removal?[/quote] What we KNOW is that a SRO would have drastically changed the response. The first 911 call was for a "community" officer for a school. It wasn't for an emergency police response for a school shooting. Precious time elapsed that allowed the shooter to hide in a classroom that was already in lockdown. Why was he allowed to enter that classroom after the lockdown? An SRO would have locked the school down faster and trapped the shooter in the hall where he could have been apprehended instead of hiding. [/quote] I disagree wholeheartedly. These schools are huge. Unless the SRO was literally in the hallway it occurred in and happened to witness the event, they wouldn’t have known who it was or even what happened for several minutes. Obviously, teachers are trained to scan the hallway and collect all students they see before locking down so the shooter was probably pulled in by a teacher anyway. The way it played out may have gotten officers in the school a couple minutes quicker but the end result would have been the same. I am impressed that they maintained calm, found the student, and AVOIDED any more injuries. If they wouldn’t have been so careful, I believe the student would have been much more likely to freak out and turn the event into a mass shooting. I get it guys, we feel the natural need to criticize (cmon, you guys can’t really are about the color of people coats and ties, right?) because the kids we love the most are inside of those buildings. We NEED gun control NOW! [/quote] Your "probably" is not what happened. Two hours to find a student with a gun inside a school wasn't being careful. The police thought the shooter had run out the door across the field. That's where they were looking first. Holding the students hostage for 3 hours after the shooter was taken down and removed from the classroom is absurd. Students peeing in bottles was necessary because?????[/quote] Except for the nurse, the actions of those in charge do not inspire any confidence whatsoever. Withholding bathroom use from teachers and students for HOURS after the shooter was removed? Not releasing students to waiting parents for HOURS? Not treating the situation as though the shooter may still be on the premises? None of it makes sense. [/quote] This makes no sense. If the student identified the other student, they get that student and release the others. It shouldn't take hours and if it does, they should have brought in snacks/drinks and allowed bathroom use. They could have had police/adults escort kids to bathrooms. And, why did it take so long to call an abundance? [/quote] The "slowed things down" statement reeked of CYA as to why the kid was allowed to potentially shoot others for 2 hours. Then after that arrest, there is no explanation. The students should have been released well before 6. Bathroom use should not have been withheld from teacher and students. This school had repeated recent threats, they should have been on top of their game re: safety response. What goal was achieved by peeing in bottled? [/quote] No DCUM debate is going to get anywhere because we aren’t involved and we probably don’t have the professional experience or training to speak knowledgeably. I can, however, help you out with your “peeing in bottles” concern. I’ve been teaching high school for almost two decades. Since Columbine, I’ve been provided with supplies in case of a lockdown situation. My closet has bottles of water, basic medical supplies, and… a bucket. Yes, we have trained for the possibility of having our students with us for hours. Gratefully, I’ve never had to use those supplies. But this is teaching in America now. I’ve had students in my room for lockdowns, the longest being over two hours. My job was keeping the kids safe in the classroom. The police had their own responsibilities, which I can’t comment on because I’m not an officer. [/quote] Not sure about HS, but in MCPS, our MS and ES don't have supplies, including water in each classroom.[/quote]
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