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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Costco shooting: LAPD officer won’t face criminal charges in killing of intellectually disabled man https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-25/costco-shooting-lapd-officer-wont-will-face-charges-in-killing-of-intellectually-disabled-man[/quote] Good. From the article: "Investigators with the district attorney’s office said no words were exchanged before French accosted Sanchez. “There was no previous altercation. ... There was no inadvertent bumping. The officer [carrying his child] was hit in the head,” Hestrin said."[/quote] Great. So cops are allowed to shoot wildly into crowded spaces because they get bumped. Just awesome. [/quote] NP - did you watch the video? Sorry, you don't get to go around violently knocking people in the heads randomly and without any provocation, particularly if they're holding a child. I'm not a fan if guns, or even a lot of cops, but I can't blame the officer for instinctively trying to protect himself and his child after being violently hit. This is the right call by the DA. [/quote] What if you were standing in Costco and got shot by this dude? Would you be happy to consider yourself collateral damage to his right to self defense? The issue is not that he defended himself, but that he HAD A GUN and will not be held accountable for SHOOTING INNOCENT BYSTANDERS with his gun. This all points in one direction: people who cannot be safe with guns, should NOT be allowed to have them in public. Drawing your weapon and shooting at any physical altercation in a crowded space means you do not have the right mental state to own a gun. Period. [/quote] Not a single innocent by stander was shot. A man who attacked an innocent man and baby was shot. His accomplices, who knowingly brought this violent dangerous man in public, were also shot. None of those 3 people were "innocent" and none were "bystanders."[/quote] His PARENTS were shot. Unless you think this is guilt by association? They were trying to defuse the situation. The fact that the shooter could not keep his wits about him and assess the situation means that HE SHOULD NOT HAVE A GUN. [/quote] They KNEW he was prone to violence and still CHOSE to bring him into a crowded public place. That is the exact opposite of trying to defuse a situation, it is INTENTIONALLY bringing it on![/quote] What makes you think they knew that? And by that argument, the shooter is equally morally/legally liable, because he KNEW he had a hair-trigger response and would not be able to properly assess threat. He's unfit to be a police officer, much less conceal carry in public places. And do you honestly think all parents of kids with mental illness deserve to get shot when their kids have behaviors in public? Wow. [/quote] NP, of course they knew that - the parents were responsible for their mentally ill son. They knew he had a change in his medication. And they should not have brought a large, unstable man in public. Attacking people is unacceptable, and being mentally ill is not an excuse. When your "behavior" is violent and hurts other people, you can't be surprised with other people fight back to protect themselves. [/quote] You don't have the right to kill bystanders because you overreact to threat. Period. [/quote] Which "bystanders" were killed?[/quote] He seriously injured the parents, injured other people in the store (by causing a panic stampede) and could have injured/killed more people. He also used disproportionate force against his attacker. You're not permitted to kill anyone you're threatened by. [/quote] Again, which bystanders were killed? The parents were not bystanders. They were accomplices. [/quote]
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