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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin?  Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US?  Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.[/quote]

No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers. [/quote]

You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.?  I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades. [/quote]

No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes. [/quote]

If the western governments weren’t so rah rah about tolerance and embracing immigrants and other similar stupid agenda pieces (rainbows and baotbeooms and what not) then the misinformation wouldn’t have a leg to stand on
Sensible policies would have made misinformation a moot point [/quote]

When confronted with hard truths, deflect with flaky unrelated whataboutisms about rainbows and trans bathrooms.  What a loser you are, can't even stay on point. [/quote]

What I’m saying is the US is kind of asking for it, engaging in unicorns and rainbows problems which have little to do with real challenges of today’s world. 
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You're hitting the wodka pretty hard tonight, Vlad![/quote]

It seems you can't point out obvious strategic flaws or seek to correct them without becoming a Russian.

Arestovich noted this has already happened in Ukraine:
"You say: "look, our enemy makes effective decisions, we don’t” - “you’re a Russian spy!" You say: "look, they did smart things there, there and there” - “that means you’re from Moscow!" It gets to the point where any sober thought, any critical thought – you are immediately labeled as a Russian spy.

People don’t understand what signal they are giving, what a hidden command: everything that is smart here, critical, self-reflective, automatically belongs to Russia.

That is, "a smart Ukrainian becomes Russian", as they write to us in chats.

Who created this trend? People who imposed a ban on thinking and a ban on understanding,” Arestovich said.[/quote]

You have got to be joking - there is very little freedom of thought or press in Russia. Putin has eradicated all viable  opposition and shuttered or hailed journalists with different views to himself.

if Trump gets back his extremist activist are already working on ensuring similar strategies will take place in the US.

Most of us don’t want his sloppy chaotic leadership or criminal tendencies back in the White House - let alone further erosion of democratic freedoms in deference to his delusions and misuse of power.
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