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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why does it have to be someone’s fault and not just the shooter’s own depravity?
I am a democrat and my boys (20s)are productive members of society. Stop blaming and threatening a political party.This just sadly shows me that I am surrounded by people that do not share my norms or morals. Lynch mob mentality is foreign to me. The only battle cries I hear are the distant drumming of a scary divided nation with the beats getting louder and closer.[/quote]

+100. 
I’m right of center and a fan of Charlie Kirk’s and don’t blame the left or anyone else other than Tyler Robinson himself.  There always have and always will be mentally unstable people who commit high profile murders.  I don’t understand the need to assign “blame” to any political wing.  Even if the left is to “blame” for this, obviously some right wing crazy will do something similar in the future. [/quote]

I was explaining to a Puerto Rican cab driver how things feel on the mainland in February of 2025.  I said things were getting so heated, I didn't see how we could avoid violence.  We both hoped I was wrong.  I wasn't.  This violence is a natural outcome of way overheated rhetoric that is primarily violent online and spills into real life.

I feel like, when I was a kid, there was still some political violence that was a spill-over from the 60s / 70s violence.  For example, the Greensboro Massacre by the Klan in 1979.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre

But now it feels like we're entering a new phase of post-Covid political violence fueled by isolation and the fact that some peoples' main lives are online.  Both eras were dangerous and led to political violence.  We came out of the previous era of political violence because of a consensus that the restoration of good governance was key to the continuance of our democracy.  There was a mainstream consensus.  Church attendance was higher.

Right now, I just don't see how our current political leadership is capable of leading us towards a better, more civil future.[/quote]

Eve of Destruction just come on the radio for me and it made me think of this too.

One of the ways we got out of the previous round was through the shared catharsis of Watergate.  The way out this time around is Epstein.  The exit is staring us right in the face and we're hesitating.
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That's interesting. I was in college then and I remember a close friend commenting on the notion that getting Nixon out of office was a sad thing for the country. He said, no, we were happy because it showed it could be done via political means. I do believe if the Senate had at least held full trials on Trump's impeachments--even if they did not remove him--it would have been better for the country. And maybe no impeachment the first time, especially since Zelensky didn't take the bait, but in the second event even if no vote but a resounding resolution to condemn the Capitol raid would have been helpful. As it was, the backpedalling just amplified Trump's self-righteousness. Also if his enablers had not continued to pursue the frivolous election court cases (frivolous since they HAD no actual evidence). [/quote]

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