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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because illegal immigration from the South did not exist before Putin?  Because poor South Americans need extra encouragement to come to the US?  Because the US hasn't been a dream for most of South America before Putin came to power? Don't be ridiculous.[/quote]

No because he exploited a terrible situation and made it way way worse through spreading well documented misinformation to locals and even providing Russian human smugglers. [/quote]

You're saying there aren't homegrown smugglers in Mexico and the rest of LatAm? Like the coyote industry does not exist? What information do you think the locals needed to decide to move to the U.S.?  I mean is there ANYTHING about life in the US that is possibly a secret to them by now? This is not a young business you know. A bit weird to pin it on Russia since this business has been booming for decades. [/quote]

No I’m saying he continued the tactics he employed to destabilize Europe by driving Syrian refugees into Europe to exacerbate an already serious situation.

And It is working - I am hearing life long democrats talk about voting for the Republican candidate due to concerns about surging illegal immigration. Putin combines driving illegal immigration into liberal democracies with misinformation that favors right wing authoritarian candidates because he knows isolating Western countries and fracturing alliances with other democracies helps Russia (and China) to further their goals for global dominance.

Russian populist misinformation helped drive Brexit and the UK is in a much weaker economic and political international position for it. He is trying to destroy NATO which would leave Western allies much more vulnerable.

He cultivated, trained and armed Hamas (in collaboration with Iran) over 17 years prior to the October 7 attack. The terrorists were armed with Russian weapons and trained by Russian soldiers in their particularly barbaric and cruel methods of war. That worked for him too in that he got world attention off his horrific war in the Ukraine. Hardly any press about Russian involvement in those attacks.

Putin is an evil genius and knows how to exploit human frailties and vulnerabilities for his own purposes. [/quote]

If the western governments weren’t so rah rah about tolerance and embracing immigrants and other similar stupid agenda pieces (rainbows and baotbeooms and what not) then the misinformation wouldn’t have a leg to stand on
Sensible policies would have made misinformation a moot point [/quote]

No western democracy has open borders. All have systems to place to process legal immigration and deport illegals. Well qualified and hard working legal immigrants are highly sought after in close to all thriving western democracies. All have provisions for humanitarian refugees and that makes us human. Many are not accepted on humanitarian grounds though.

What they were not well prepared for was weaponization of illegal immigration at the scale Putin and his cronies instigated through blanket bombings in Syria, illegal invasion of Ukraine and mass disinformation campaigns in central and South America and other vulnerable communities as well as providing actual Russian smugglers to increase illegal immigration to point that destabilizes democracies.

Putin has been weaponizing illegal
Immigration in US and western democracies for years now.

Managing immigration both legal and illegal  is complex and important. Obama and Biden have both been deporting illegal immigrants at higher number than their Republican predecessors AND working on more rational routes for legal migration. [/quote]

This is hilarious. He's probably behind DC's car-jacking epidemic too. Probably got the whole council on his payroll to be soft on crime just to destabilize the nation's capital.

Putin is such a master of the universe. I wish we had a leader as omni-competent. 
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I posted links to highly credible sources such as NATO generals and US intelligence reporting these events.

You have not provided any credible sources for your weaponization of illegal immigration denialism. [/quote]

Pretty much every problem in the US has been blamed on Russians/Putin by "credible sources" over the last few years. If even half of them are true, then it would be in our interest to come to some sort of raproachment with Russia and reap an immediate "peace dividend" that would make everyone's life so much better. [/quote]

So that Putin can lead the way in helping Trump go completely fascist? No thanks Vlad![/quote]

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