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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Holy. Shit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/laurenduca/status/739505679635992577[/quote]

Actually, the father is correct.

Both of them were drunk. Both.  She was so drunk, she had no idea of anything, and didn't come-to until she was in the hospital, with no recollection. She was black-out drunk. While no one deserves to be raped, she placed herself in a very dangerous state. I do want to know where her friends were, where her sister was, where ANY responsible person was  - probably drunk themselves. It would have been a cold day in hell, in college, when I would have left one of my friends (or a perfect stranger) alone,  that dangerously drunk.

His son, in his drunken state, assaulted this girl. Very, very wrong. He IS taking responsibility for his actions. What disturbs me, is not only is she NOT taking responsibility for her own stupidity, but she has all the pity in the world. The net result of that is the message that people can get as stupid-drunk as they want and expect NO harm to come of them. That is NOT a message I have EVER given my children, and ever will.

This statement from the victim? “You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today,” she read in court from her victim impact statement,

What kind of worth does one have when one is so drunk, one can't even function? What kind of confidence? What kind of intimacy?

And this? "I was the wounded antelope of the herd, completely alone and vulnerable, physically unable to fend for myself, and he chose me."

She completely brushes aside her responsibility in becoming a 'wounded antelope'.

The judge did good in this case.[/quote]

I'm so glad I've only see a few ignorant messages like yours in response to this verdict and article.

[b]It is not illegal to get black-out drunk.[/b]  This is what the victim did.

[b]It is illegal to stand on a public sidewalk/park/area/etc. drinking alcohol.[/b]  The victim did not do this.

[b]It is illegal to drink and then drive.[/b]  The victim did not do this.

[b]It is illegal to be drunk in public, being a nuisance.[/b]  The victim did not do this.

[b]It is illegal to sexually assault another person.[/b]  This is what Brock did.

[b]It is illegal to digitally penetrate another person.[/b]  This is what Brock did.

[b]It is illegal to rub your erect penis on an unconscious person.[/b]  This is what Brock did.

[b]It is illegal to rape another person.[/b]  This is what Brock did.

Maybe by breaking it down for you, you'll be able to understand that what she did was not illegal.  What he did, [b]was[/b] illegal.

She did own up to the fact that it was not smart to drink that much.  But again, not illegal.  He's never owned up to the fact that what he did was illegal.  Even now, after being convicted, he nor his father/family believe what he did was illegal.  He did what he did because he drank is their mentality.  The alcohol is the perpetrator and Brock and his victim are the real victims!

Telling a woman that she wouldn't have been raped if she hadn't of been so drunk is wrong.  
Telling a woman that she wouldn't have been raped if she hadn't been running along in the dark is wrong.
Telling a woman that she wouldn't have been raped if her skirt wasn't so short is wrong.

I refuse to teach my daughter that doing any of the above could lead to her being raped.  Why?  [b]Because I expect you to teach your son that rape/sexual assault is illegal.  End of story.  [/b]

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I've taught my kids that when you're drunk out of your mind and unconscious or high on drugs, you're putting yourself in a very vulnerable position because there are bad people in this world who will take advantage of you if they can. Wish that weren't true, but it is.
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[b]Yup. For those of us that live here in reality, you protect yourself and don't put yourself in a vulnerable position. Rape is not ok so not excusing it at all, but there is no need to make yourself a target by what you are wearing, who you are with, where you are, etc. People do have *some* control over their lives.[/b]

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I was raped at 11:08 am on a Tuesday.  It was not dark out.  I was not alone.  I was at work.  There were security cameras.  I was wearing a new pair of black slacks that I'd yet to take to get altered, so they were a smidge too long and the hem dragged the ground a bit because I wanted to wear flats that day instead of heels.  I had on a turquoise silk tank top under my black suit jacket.  He put his hand over my mouth and a knife to my neck that pierced my skin enough to let me know he was serious about killing me if I screamed or fought too much.  I did fight and the knife sunk in deeper.  I bit the hand he had over my mouth and he pushed so hard that I thought my front teeth would cave in.  He ripped my slacks and pulled them down just far enough to spread my legs enough.  He didn't take off his pants; he just unzipped them and pulled himself out and then raped me.  The zipper from his jeans kept digging into my skin with each movement.  I still have a small zipper-tooth scar from this.  He winked when he was done.  He punched my temple and then twice in my kidneys before he ran.

I wasn't impaired.  I wasn't wearing any provocative clothing.  I wasn't alone or in a dark, sketchy place.  I was working.  My co-workers had no idea that just down the hall, my life pre-11:08 am on that Tuesday morning was ending.  I'm not even what most people would call pretty.  I just wanted to know why, why, why.  It took lots of therapy to learn that there is no why.  I didn't do anything wrong.  Some men rape because they want to.  That's life.  My rapist wanted to rape that day and I was his unlucky victim.

By your logic, when I was in full control, I shouldn't have been raped.  But rapists aren't logical.  There are thousands of other stories like mine of people who weren't "being vulnerable " who were raped.  We shouldn't have to teach our girls not to get raped because boys should just know and have been taught DON'T RAPE.                     [/quote]

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