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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Was OP's GPA a 3.7 or 3.8uw? There is a difference. 3.7uw is generally not competitive for Ivies even with ED. The guide for "private selective/feeder" HS that I've seen thrown around here tends to be mostly true (posted in other threads as well): There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation, but here’s the general overview: 3.9+ = competitive for T10+ 3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+ 3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+[/quote] From our non-national-feeder but great DMV private, 3.7uw has no shot at T25-30, it is barely above average. 3.8uw is borderline for T25/30, have a decent shot if they have taken the most difficult courses in all areas. 3.9uw is in range for T20 yet quite borderline and not likely for T10. T10/ivy unhooked even with ED needs to have top10% GPA minimum which means one or two A-, rest A and A+, or 3.95+uw. The OP needs to get data from their school. They likely made a poor list. [/quote] Your school has massive grade inflation. That is not typical in highly regarded private feeder high schools.[/quote] This is more typical than parents like to believe. Parents keep thinking that no one gets close to 4.0 but even in the toughest of schools, a few kids always get more than 3.95 and 3.7 to 3.8 gpa is average.[/quote] Agreed. We've been invaded by posters who say that a 3.95 is an impossible GPA at top privates but I don't think they're from the DMV. I know at both NCS and STA that a full 20% of the class is above a 3.9 or 93% (at STA). Maret too as I had a kid there. I don't know about Sidwell or GDS. I currently have an NCS junior with a 3.95 and she doesn't have the impression that her grades are unusual. [/quote] It's not impossible to get 3.95 uw at our daughter's competitive private in the SF Bay. They shared that 20% get 3.85-3.95, 20% get 3.7-3.84, and 60% get below 3.7. It's an academic HS as you needed high GPA and standardized test (SSAT) to get in in grade 8. I have no idea of whether the grading is inflationary or deflationary compared to other academic privates. But it is what it is![/quote] +1 In our private school the GPAs are very high. For AP classes, if the kid gets a 5 on AP test, the grade for that class gets a bump often to an A, if the original grade is not an A. I would say half of the class have over 3.9 GPA. School doesn't weight GPA, average SAT is 1500. Kids start taking AP in 8-th grade (some taking Calculus AB). A 3.7 kid probably gets counseled out in 9th grade. [/quote] Wow that's so much more generous than our private. Like I said, at our SF Bay private school, less than 20% (not 50%) get over a 3.85, and no one gets their grade bumped up to an A just for getting a 5 on the AP test. I wish they did for college entry purposes! Like I said, 60% of our class gets below a 3.7.[/quote] School recognizes there are subjective elements in grades given in the class, emphasizes on the importance of standardized tests. Kids take on average 15 APs. There is no hooks in the school, mostly immigrants' kids. A few exceptions are faculty's kids. No athletic recruits. [/quote] Sounds like Harker. Not surprised if they pulled stunts like the one that you are talking about.[/quote] Harker is such an exceptional school and turns out well-read, erudite students. They will succeed regardless of their university. [/quote] Harker turns out little STEM grinds to please their immigrant parents. But, it is very good at what it does.[/quote] My daughter, from a liberal arts high school, is at a T5 and says the Harker students are some of the few who understand the literary allusions she makes. [/quote] No they don’t. Except for Stanford (faculty kids) and MIT Harker only puts one or two per year into each T5 school. Odds of knowing that many Harker students is nil.[/quote] Reread your post. Stanford and MIT are both T5s.[/quote] Read the last sentence. The odds of knowing multiple Harker students at not T5 is pretty much nil. Not very many of them anywhere. [/quote] By your own admission, there are quite a few Harker students at Stanford and MIT. My daughter, attends one of those schools. She knows some Harker students and says they are bright and well-read. I’m not sure why you are insisting this is not true. But whatever. [/quote] Harker actually doesn’t have an overwhelming number of students at either of those schools - an average of 11 per year at Stanford and 4 at MIT. The number of students at Stanford may seem high, but it’s lower than some Bay Area public schools. [/quote] She’s been very impressed with the education of the Harker students she knows.[/quote]
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