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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Class ‘24 parent her. This thread has generated so many comments because it taps into a lot of our anxieties, stress, confusion and frustration over a process that unfortunately, is too intertwined with our personal/collective insecurities and aspirations. Many of us can relate to this thread because we all know someone or know of someone who “had high stats and did all the right things” and was still rejected at a lot of top schools. The problem isn’t going to get fixed with Supreme Court decisions, SAT tutors or high priced college counselors. It has to start at the parent level. We parents created the market for this craziness by paying for Kumon, elite sports camps, private college counselors, pay-to-play programs. Kids are jumping through all these hoops because we as parents have certain hopes and aspirations for them. I’m glad I was warned early on that my high stats kid was likely to be rejected by T-25 schools. It’s not the easiest pill to swallow for many of us who were easily accepted into these same top schools with B’s, limited extracurricular involvement, and few AP’s (and no non-profits or research back then!). However, being warned before hand was a blessing because it forced me to recalibrate expectations early on and focus more on fit and admissibility over prestige for my kid. Another great thing was seeing the examples set by top students from our local area who showed little or no interest in T-25 or WASP schools. They opted for our state flagship, service academies, less selective schools with prestigious niche programs, etc. There’s a big world of opportunity out there, and maybe if we parents start placing less importance on prestige schools and stop feeding the market for them,  for this madness might abate. [/quote]These posts always get me to chuckle. You are just trying to get other parents to give up in order to give your kid an edge

The colleges created this problem by having opaque admissions with moving targets. They can fix it by laying out exact criteria for students to meet in order to gain acceptance.
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Any school that laid out exact criteria would wind up accepting more than 25% of applicants, and that would make the school seem undesirable to the status-obsessed parents, thus reducing the number of “elite” schools they’re all so desperate to get their kids into and making the problem even worse. [/quote]the acceptance rate is distorted because kids apply to 10-20 schools. If colleges were more transparent and honest about what they were looking for , kids wouldn't need to apply to more than 3-5 schools.[/quote]

But why would colleges all go along with your plan? Rich people and people with college savings are not clamoring for clarity. They might be grumbling about a lack of clarity, but what they’re clamoring for is exclusivity. The market is giving them what they want. [/quote]

We have saved for our kids’ college all their lives. We’d like some clarity, pls. The system is dysfunctional. [/quote]

Clarity is easy to find. Just stop chasing the same 30 Universities and 10 SLACS and you'll be fine.[/quote]

Your talking nonsense. Unless you know where our child applied. Do you?

No, you don’t. 
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Now you are really just sounding whack. I don't know or need to know where your children applied. If you want better admissions clarity do not apply to the same 30 or so colleges and 10 or so SLACs which are discussed and argued over ad nauseum here on DCUM. If you get outside of the bubble of those schools clarity is significantly easier to find. If you really want clarity drop down another 10 on the USNWR list for National Universities and below the T20 SLACs. beyond those lines admissions typically becomes significantly clearer.

If you want to apply to the first groups of schools just give it up because you aren't going to get close to what you want given the sub 20% admissions rates for all of them and sub 10% admissions rates for many of them.[/quote]

You are confused. You do not know where my student applied. Right?

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You started out by writing: “We have saved for our kids’ college all their lives. We’d like some clarity, pls. The system is dysfunctional.”

Doesn’t sound like you applied to VCU.[/quote]

So you don’t know where my kid applied? Right?[/quote]

What are you trying to prove? You asked DCUM for clarity about college admissions. DCUM responded that admissions is only unclear for about 40 schools. Now you’re angry, protesting that we can’t possibly know your kid applied to one of those schools. Well ok then, but if your kid isn’t applying to one of those schools why are you asking for clarity about how to get accepted to one of those schools?[/quote]

Because you are insisting that my student applied “to the same 30 or so colleges and 10 or so SLACs” and is “clamoring” for “exclusivity.” This is far from the case and yes, even for schools outside your exclusive 40, the process is far from clear.

But bottom line is you don’t know what you’re talking about. 
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