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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.

Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.[/quote]

But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.[/quote]

There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.

In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy. [/quote]

So basically the constitution didn't and still doesn't consider having an abortion ending a life? The constitution enshrines life as far as I know. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness.[/quote]

No idea what your post is even trying to articulate. But the Constitution is different from the Declaration of Independence.

This kind of demonstrates the point though. This illiterate PP is free to have an opinion about abortion rights. But trying to support that opinion in the context of Constitutional law is a joke. You people have no clue what you’re talking about. [/quote]

True I don't know but I started my request asking why this was a state's rights verses federal decision so I pretty much said I was ignorant from the beginning and never gave an opinion. I'm not a supreme court judge nor do I really have an opinion on abortion either way. I think more children and women should be cared for, but I don't know the law what should be allowed. Pro lifers seem to think it's murder so they would want a federal ruling I'd think that it was taking away a life and not a state's rights. I don't really understand why it was federal for roe-v wade and now why states have the right to decide. I don't really understand the new or old law on this. I'm  mainly curious why it was determined that this be a state decision rather than a federal one.[/quote]

Roe held that there was a constitutional right to an abortion. Applied to the whole country/federal.

This SCOTUS is now saying there is no constitutional right to an abortion. This means that the states can legislate any way they want. So it’s now a state by state issue. [/quote]

Thank you. And originally it was a constitutional right because?[/quote]

Because all people are guaranteed liberty under the constitution, which can only be abridged by the state given compelling interests.  The states now need no reason to infringe upon your rights.  Great job conservatives.[/quote]

But it never really was about states rights, was it? The only reason "states rights" became a Republican catchphrase is because "we love slavery" and "f*** women and minorities" is déclassé.[/quote]

If you think about it, it was always about the states rights to infringe upon the fundamental liberty of their inhabitants that was at stake.  Boggles the damn mind how conservatives have been able to spin their fascism as love of liberty.[/quote]
They’ve effectively had all media, but especially their propaganda outlets, at their disposal for decades. They can lie, obfuscate, reframe, make crap up, “just ask questions” and generally brainwash people. Look at all the maga morons on this thread alone who do not understand what this means. [/quote]

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