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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.[/quote]

The point is, this is generally wrong.  At Ivies, all teams have Academic Index requirements.  Research it.  There may be a couple kids on the low end of the general student distribution, but then those are balanced by kids at the extreme high end.  Way too many people commenting on this thread who have no actual knowledge of the rules and what actually happens.[/quote]

It is not wrong. A kid I know was offered a spot at Columbia, Vanderbilt and Wesleyan without applying. NO application has been filled out. He’s taken the SAT three times and his super score is not even over 1000. He’s at a small public school with As, Bs and Cs. He hasn’t filled out a single college application yet. Zero. No common app. Nothing. He has taken a sprinkling of honors classes, zero AP classes. He’s played football all four years. Zero other activities. [/quote]

Sorry guy, but this definitely didn't happen.[/quote]

Well, it did. He took the spot at Wesleyan and filled the application out. He was promptly accepted. He chose that school bc his gf is a junior and he wants to stay relatively close to her. [/quote]

Ahh, the "kid I know" story. Unless it's your son, it's not true - NP here with a H who played baseball at Ivy. The coach's offer was conditional on a minimum SAT score and GPA. BTW, the lowest scores are not coming from athletes and legacies, but from the children of celebrities, royals, and mega wealthy (like billions). Some of them have such low scores that they are allowed to "shadow" the first year and then officially enroll the next year, so they won't spoil the scores. One of the celebrities' kids wrote a very honest opinion about the process in the student newspaper and she candidly admitted that she got in because of her mom. It caused a lot of drama. [/quote]

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