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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This discussion will never go anywhere as there are two distinct lines of thinking

There are people who believe that if you commit a crime, that should define the entirety of your life. They don't believe in second chances, or rehabilitation. They don't see people as complex or multifaceted. It is just black and white. If you did wrong, that is the entirety of who you are. they don't believe a person who has done wrong can ever do good or be good. They do not believe their life has any further value. This is not an uncommon position. It is why there are people who are in jail for life for dealing marijuana or stealing a piece of pizza. We are seeing a lot of this view on this thread. People who believe this athletic accomplishments and philanthropic efforts and family roles are null and void due to what he did back in 2003. Many of these people don't even care about the actual facts of the case - there is so much information in the posts on here about what actually happened (based on published documents of first hand interview and testimony).

Then there are the opposite. People who believe that people can and do evolve and grown and change. That even when a crime is committed, that doesn't entirely define the person and that they can still have other roles and aspects to their lives that are good and purposeful and meaningful to many. That their talent and accomplishments can stand and exist and be recognized while still acknowledging that people are imperfect. They believe in rehabilitation and in taking responsibility. They also care about facts and acknowledging grey.

These two ways to approach the world are seen in thread after thread on this board.  Your MIL gave your child juice against her wishes -cut her off. Your husband got upset and said something disrespectful - divorce him. Your friend cancelled a lunch without a good explanation - never speak to her again.  These posts and responses get a lot of support on here. Many people truly see in good and bad, black and white with no in between. [/quote]

Actually, no. There have been plenty of people in this thread (I’m one of them) trying to point out that he was an amazing athlete, great dad, coach, philanthropist... and rapist.

All of these things can be true.[/quote]

Then you fall into Category 2 if you believe they all be true (I would say alleged rapist as he was never found guilty). However if you feel the need to insist that the word rapist be in every post that mentions him or his accomplishments then you are more like Category 1 where you only think he can be a rapist athlete or a rapist coach or a rapist father. [/quote]

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