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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]None of these defense theories make any sense.  If I were him, I’d think th best defense would be to blame it all on tj AP.  Yes, I was sleeping with the AP but if meant nothing because I’m a huge player.   She got obsessed with me and she planned this whole setup without me.  She had access to my wife’s computer and phone to plan stuff for kid.  She set up the Joe thing hersel, shot him and stabbed my wife — when I came in C was already stabbed and AP was screaming and I naturally concluded that this guy was an intruder so I shot him again.
I don’t think the blood pattern matches any of this so it wouldn’t really work but it’s way more persuasive than what seems to be the defense theory of the case — that C suddenly got totally into kinky stuff, set up this very extreme meetup (on her husbands birthday) as her first foray into kink, locked her phone downstairs in a drawer so she wouldn’t be able to check and see if the guy was trying to reach her, and that Joe decided that—even though he had a long history of kink without non consensual violence and no history of violence against women—that he was going to stab this woman to death instead of having sex with her.  That theory just makes utterly no sense.  [/quote]

This version of events is incompatible with the known facts in this investigation, including the original story that was given by the defendant himself. Brendan has given multiple statements to investigators since the day of the murders, and has always said he entered the room and shot Joe first. There is no way that defense could now assert that Juliana did all that and Brendan came and shot him second.

But I do think we’ve touched multiple times on the idea Brendan may have set things up so Juliana could take the fall, so to speak. I think that’s possible (that he thought that) but was not any more of a realistic thought than anything else involved in this plot.

Defense doesn’t want to assert that Juliana was the sole catfisher (and everything else happened as it did, assuming Brendan’s assertion Joe was using the knife). They technically could, but I don’t think it’s the best avenue available because a) it would only be strengthening the prosecution’s case that catfishing happened and b) there may be evidence that would easily disprove this. I’m not sure off the top of my head, but I seem to recall one of the pictures usd on the account was one that Christine sent to Brendan but didn’t post. I’m not 100% on this, I know the defense exhibit yesterday showed one that was downloaded from Facebook. But I believe the prosecution case at some point included a photo sent specifically to Brendan. IF that’s the case (and I don’t have a hard source on that, so if someone does, drop it here) then defense basically could not assert catfishing happened but without the cooperation of Brendan. It would either have to be Christine, or other parties including Brendan.

Right now trying to create doubt the catfishing theory is correct is the best avenue for the defense, as far as I can see. I think they just need better organization and witness management.

Another thing that is important that I think some people are missing, with respect to the last thought quoted - Joe “intending” to stab or kill anyone isn’t a factor in Brendan’s use of self defense. The factor is what Brendan could reasonable believe at the time (which realistically is…nothing, because he created the situation). Joe could have nothing but good intentions in the scenario, while Brendan reasonably doesn’t know that. [/quote]

Two things in response—
1) the photo C sent to B doesn’t preclude J being the sole catfisher — if J had access to C’a phone she could have just gotten the photo off that phone
2) the point about Joe stabbing C isn’t about Brendan’s state of mind and whether it was reasonably defense of others to shoot Joe.  The point is that Brendan’s theory depends on Joe actually stabbing Christine, because she definitely was stabbed and B’s not saying that he did it himself or that Juliana did it or that Christine did it.  There were only 4 people in the room and B’s theory of the case seems to be that Joe stabbed her.  Which just seems flatly ridiculous given all the evidence about Joe.  Why would he stab her?  
B’s biggest problem is that the forensic evidence, including the blood spatter, pretty clearly points to him.  The catfishing is all secondary —  the question is really just who stabbed C, and the answer is very clearly her husband.

He’s such an awful person.  The AP is no hot shakes either in the morality department, but honestly seems like she was dropped on her head as an infant or something — something is really not firing in there.  If not for B, she probably never would have killed anyone, although I can also see her as the kind of woman that ends up as a drug mule for her loser boyfriend.  [/quote]

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