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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Regardless of all the intricacies people are talking about, sometimes it’s good to remember the big picture:

1) Russia invaded Ukraine, completely unprovoked, and Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia.

2) For America, this is a DC board trolls, this war is already a big victory for the US. No lives lost and a decimated stockpile of Soviet equipment for Russia. They will never be able to restock all that equipment which was built over decades by a much larger and powerful country, the Soviet Union. The US needs to continue supplying Ukraine to continue the slow bleed out of Russian legacy equipment and ammunition.[/quote]

The lesson that will be learned is that Western democracies have incredibly short memories, and incredibly little ability to commit to a coherent policy to oppose a non-democratic invader.  Russia has won a victory and now knows that it can win wars of attrition against the west.  [/quote]

Oh please. This war would have been over in a month if Russia had chosen to engage with NATO forces.

The West does not fight wars of attrition. No American or Norwegian or Canadian is fighting in a trench. There's a little thing called air dominance - F-22, F-35, B-1 and many other systems for which Russia has no answer. Followed by Apaches and gunships. Then artillery systems that make the HIMARS look like Napoleon-era cannons. Then mine clearing. Followed by Styker Brigades to wreck whatever remains. And only then will a NATO infantry boot touch the ground.

Russia lost more than 320,000 soldiers and most of its armor to a Ukrainian civilian army made up on the go and equipped with forty year old NATO equipment that has been gathering cobwebs in warehouses for decades. Not to mention losing a good deal of their air force - another 8 fighter bombers shot down in the past 2 weeks. As well as losing a significant portion of the Black Sea fleet - including its flagship - to a country that doesn't have a navy.

This was a pathetic display for Russia. The world sleeps safer seeing how incompetent and inferior the Russian military truly is. A 3 day special military operation that turned into a catastrophe for Russia. But it's been a great gift to NATO, which due to the addition of Sweden and Finland, became significantly bigger recently. Russia now has a very long border directly with NATO. Great move invading Ukraine. Real big brain thinking.[/quote]

+1000 :mrgreen: [/quote]

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