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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter]https://x.com/JonathanTurley/status/2044859840766333021[/twitter] Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger captures the hypocrisy of politicians attempting to justify these power grabs. Even before this vote, she was widely criticized for running as a moderate but then veering to the far left as soon as she was elected. Her polling numbers reflect a “stunning” drop in support due to the bait-and-switch. No issue is more glaring than her vocal opposition to gerrymandering in any form before she ran for governor. In 2019, when the Supreme Court halted redistricting, Spanbergger declared: “This is good news for Virginia and the country. Gerrymandering is detrimental to our democracy and it weakens the individual voices that form our electorates. Opposing gerrymandering should be a bipartisan priority.” However, now that Democrats control the legislature, Spanberger changed her position and is pushing the most extreme gerrymandered map in the nation — a move that would take an almost evenly divided delegation and wipe out all but one Republican district. In a state considered purple and divided down the middle, the Democrats would seize 10 of 11 absurdly crafted districts, including one called “the lobster” for its contorted shape. The Democrats are insisting that they are merely responding to Texas, but this is far more extreme than in other states. Moreover, this is a purple state where Democrats are not even trying a modest accommodation for roughly half of the voters. It is a simple muscle play to suspend the state constitution despite a prior commitment to bar gerrymandering. Spanberger believes in fighting gerrymandering unless it works to her party’s advantage. Others have shown greater integrity. For example, Republicans in Indiana control the legislature but have refused to gerrymander the state, even “temporarily.” The radical proposal is only possible because Virginia was once widely cited as a model of fairness in voting. Spanberger and the Democrats have now shattered that model. Not only are the Democrats wiping out the representation of roughly half of the state (in the name of protecting Democracy), but polls show that the voters are sharply divided. A slight majority is polling in favor of the move. Yet, that division is not reflected in the measure itself, which lacks any moderation or restraint. Democrats are simply wiping out almost every Republican district because they can. The fact that Democrats are ignoring the unfairness to half of their neighbors shows how rage politics has taken hold of the country.[/quote] + 1,000,000 It's a shame that more Democrats don't think like this one. Yes, he's a lifelong Democrat and self-described liberal (not to be confused with leftist)[/quote] He’s a Libertarian. [/quote] No. He's a liberal Democrat. I'll take his own words over yours: "I am not a supporter of President Trump. I voted against him in 2016 and I have previously voted for Presidents Clinton and Obama. I am a liberal. But I am also a constitutionalist who believes that we must maintain a degree of consistency in our legal and constitutional arguments." - 12/4/19 testimong before the House. Libertarians may like him, but that does not make him a libertarian[/quote] And for the other elections? Funny he doesn’t mention who he voted for in 2016, 2000, and 1988. And I wonder who he voted for in 2020 and 2024… For a “liberal Democrat” and “constitutionalist” he hasn’t said much, if anything, about Trump’s flagrant abuses of power and frequent shitting on the Constitution. He strangely ONLY criticizes Democrats. It seems that Trump and the GOP can do no wrong in his eyes. [/quote] Huh???? He said he's not a Trump supporter. That makes it a pretty safe bet he voted for Hillary in 2016. He said he voted for Obama and Clinton. Why on earth would you expect him to go all the way back to 1988 and 2000? He's probably old enough to have voted in '80 and '84 too. Are you entitled to know who he voted for then as well? That's absurd. And yeah the piece he wrote is criticizing the gerrymandering the Democrats are trying to. That's the whole point[/quote] He offered up his voting record as evidence of his political affiliation. It's fair game. He said that he voted for "Presidents Clinton and Obama", which would be 1992 and/or 1996 and 2008 and/or 2012. So 2 to 4 times. He said he voted [i]against Trump[/i], NOT that he voted [i]for[/i] H Clinton. Given his careful wording, it seems likely that he voted for either Johnson or Stein. If he only voted for a Democrat 2-4 times in the last 40+ years I'd say he wasn't much of a Democrat. [/quote] Man, thats some serious detective work. Busted! But he's a self-proclaimed liberal, isn't that good enough? [/quote] No. He’s just like the “as a Dem” bullshit artists on DCUM. Instead, I will take ALL of the words that he has said since that carefully-worded comment. Where are all of his criticisms of Trump/GOP’s flagrant abuses of power and frequent shitting on the Constitution? He strangely ONLY criticizes Democrats. On FoxNews, no less. If it walks like a duck… [/quote]
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