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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter]https://x.com/baltcopolice/status/1774457576576385371?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

DCUM has suggested that C4 would be the most appropriate tool. Can we get someone to tell them they are doing it wrong? Oxy-acetylene is just too old school. [/quote]

Not C4, but copper clad linear cutting charges, would be a safer option for dismantling large sections of the truss wreckage that may be under considerable tension or compression loads. Certainly safer than oxy-fuel torches. I would expect cutting charges will be used to do quite a lot of the disassembly of pieces that are under such loads. It would be industry malpractice not to.

-someone who used to blow things up for a living. [/quote]
I'm sure you know how to blow things up. 
I'm also sure that the companies hired for this disassembly know the best way to do this.[/quote]

Like the company that was hired to build that bransit center in MoCo knew the right concrete to use?  It’s mind of surprisingly how often contractors totally do not know what they are doing. 
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Extremely different situations and you're misrepresenting what happened there. First off, that project was managed by the county, not the state. Second, it wasn't simply a question of using the wrong material -- it was about the design of the steel and concrete structure and whether (1) the contractor accurately represented the construction in design documents and (2) whether the design documents that were submitted to and approved by the county were properly followed. Ultimately it was settled out of court in part because it can be hard to allocate fault in situations like that -- the county agencies that oversaw the project also have responsibility for ensuring projects meet current standards and specifications, and that was likely going to be part of the contractors argument at trial if it had not settled. But no, this was not a question of a contractor just using the "wrong" material, it was a complex problem relating to design and construction and was driven in part by a desire to have an "interesting" design and architectural feature and then poorly managing the process.

In this case you're talking about hiring a company that does a highly specific activity that does not involve design or construction (large scale underwater deconstruction and debris removal). There are only so many companies that do that kind of work at that scale, and no, they are not just going to accidentally use the "wrong" material.

Some of you internet warriors are so convinced you know everything there is to know about a subject just by reading a headline and looking at a YouTube video. So little humility about the idea that other people's jobs might be complex or nuanced in a way you don't understand and never will. Every time there is any kind of event like this, everyone is an expert based on absolutely nothing. It's exhausting.[/quote]

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