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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] [quote=Anonymous]
 My other half still hasn’t  forgiven Maroon 5 for           “selling out”.[/quote]

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No offense to Maroon 5 or your other half but Greta Gerwig making Barbie is like Martin Scorsese making a Marvel movie after Taxi Driver and Raging Bull. She is that talented, and Barbie is that bad compared to Ladybird and Little Women. She should have won an Oscar for her directing in Little Woman and and an Oscar for the Ladybird screenplay. 
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Maybe, but Gerwig has to play by different rules than Scorsese because it's a sexist industry.

My hope/belief is that Gerwig did Barbie in exchange for the ability to make a number of smaller, women-centric movies that she is truly passionate about. Either through an explicit deal with the studio or because the amount of money she will make on the backend from Barbie will fund other projects.

That's what George Clooney did with his Batman money and it's how he justifies having made it. A little different because he was an actor in that movie (and because I don't love the "passion projects" he made with that money -- he does not have Gerwig's vision or talent), but it's the same approach. The studio wants you to do the giant tent pole branded movie with the action figures (er, dolls)? Okay, then you will milk the bottomless pit of money they have for such films until you have everything you need to do EXACTLY what you want for the rest of your career.

I believe this is also why Chloé Zhao made The Eternals and why Phoebe Waller-Bridge co-wrote a Bond film. Taika Waititi made Marvel movies and that helps fund stuff like What We Do in the Shadows and Reservation Dogs. This is how it works. Hollywood only wants to spend money on this very narrow set of franchises that they know will be profitable and offer huge merchandising and overseas sales. Streaming has only exacerbated this. But a lot of artists will participate in that machine in order to be able to self-fund the work they really want to do. I will never criticize them for this. That doesn't mean I have to love the big-budget stuff they do, but I'm not going to get mad about it. They have to find a way to make movies, it's a hard art form to make without money. Even super low budget indie films will cost a few million just to pay for talent and locations. Let them make their money!

By the way, as these projects go, Gerwig does a lot with Barbie that impressed me in a way that those Marvel movies form Zhao and Waititi do not. It IS subversive in surprising ways, even if it skirts the line and also has a lot of the same old trite, big budget, brand-centric movie qualities. Barbie proves how talented Gerwig is, that she could make a movie based on a doll and it could still be as good as it is.[/quote]

I see what you’re saying, but Greta Gerwig is a much more talented director than anyone on your list except maybe Chloe Zhao.

[b]Christopher Nolan, who is half the director Gerwig is,[/b] made Batman, but those are legitimate good movies and don’t pale in comparison to his other work. Barbie is so dull and trite compared to Ladybird and Little Women by almost every criteria: direction, screenplay, performances, etc. It is a blemish in what was one of the most impressive debuts from a director in the past 10 years.

There are a lot of great directors who made commercial hits, but didn’t flop artistically to do so. The Departed and Wolf of Wall Street aren’t Taxi Driver, but they’re not so far beneath them that Scorsese should be embarrassed either.

Barbie is that bad relative to her other work in my opinion, but I have a very high opinion of her.[/quote]

NP. Yeah, no. They are both extremely talented directors.[/quote]

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