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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][twitter]https://twitter.com/JessicaLBurbank/status/1674494793315938309[/twitter][/quote]

So a lot more whites apply vs blacks because there are a lot more whites.

US population by race
White 59%
Hispanic 19%
Black 12%
Asian 6%[/quote]

So you would expect matriculation rates at roughly these levels and yet, they aren't. The matriculation still over samples white students and under samples blacks and Asians.[/quote]

Harvard is a bad example to base these type of things on. It’s a very small number of the total number of college students. Many top students do not even apply.

So 61,221 apply and 1,984 are admitted. 95% of those accepted have at a minimum 1540 sat, 35 act and 4.12 gpa. Over 1/2 of the applicants meet these numbers. This applicant pool is not representative of the US population- ie a higher percentage of whites and Asian; lower number blacks vs the general population. This exaggerates the statistics.

Looking at class make up Harvard 
Black      15% in class/12% US population
Hispanic  12%/19%
Asian       28%/6%

So slightly over with blacks, sizable deficit with Hispanic(actually bigger given average age of Hispanic population vs US population) and Asian way way over represented.

Being admitted to Harvard is winning the lottery. No matter how you break down the admissions by race they will still turn away very qualified applicants. Harvard has a special program(Dean’s Interest List) for big donors who are admitted with much much lower scores. No one talks about it.

Harvard is private, does not have many students and should be able to do what they want in terms of admissions. Now the public colleges and universities is where this ruling will a large impact on continuing the historic economically disparities between the races.

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Agree. Getting into Harvard, Yale or Stanford is like winning the lottery. Remember, the majority of Asian students or orgs did not support this. One of the reasons is that there are a lot of Asians who fight about this idea of being the "model minority".

Remember, you can have the greatest SAT scores and have that Harvard degree, but it is not necessarily going to help you get the opportunities that you want b/c whether you like to believe it or not, ALL people of color face barriers in the job market. You may say that that's not true in the STEM fields, but that is a small percentage of all jobs. You won the battle, but will lose the war.[/quote]

Pew Research disagrees:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/06/08/more-americans-disapprove-than-approve-of-colleges-considering-race-ethnicity-in-admissions-decisions/

About 52% of English speaking Asians disapprove of Affirmative Action compared to 37% that approve.

Asian Americans are also very aware of the bamboo ceiling.[/quote]

First generation Asian Americans--or their parents--come from countries where university admission is based solely on performance on a university entrance exam. So it's easy to understand why AA doesn't make sense to them. (Many also come from countries that have blatant internal and external racism, but that's a whole 'nuther story.) They are not alone in thinking that. My Southern European relatives also have a university admission system based exclusively on performance on a university entrance exam. Other admissions criteria favored in this country like essays, extracurriculars, community service, participation in athletics, etc. are almost exclusively an American phenomenon. It's just a very different model of college admissions than pretty much anywhere else in the world. [/quote]

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