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LOL. No. I want you to ride the metro, WFH, or just take a lot longer to drive to your office because you have to do it slowly and safely. I don’t gaf about your convenience, deal with the consequences of your own choice to live far away from where you work. The entitlement and total lack of self awareness is unreal with you people [/quote]

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It's like when drivers slam Muriel Bowser as being, get this, too soft on violent crime because unenforced bike lanes are being installed. All because drivers are bitter that DC's transportation policy is no longer 100% focused on increasing convenience for metro area drivers while reducing costs and responsibility.[/quote]

This is misguided and not business friendly. People will leave DC and downtown businesses will be hurt. It's also a policy that hurts middle and lower income workers who don't live on the metro line/live far out from DC. [/quote]

lower income workers are not driving into DC and paying $30 to park.You’re making an argument for better buses and metro. [/quote]

Buses that need these roads to connect their routes.  Buses that are larger than cars and need wider lanes and broader turn zones to function.  Subways that need greater population density to be economical.  Greater population density that needs more land to build on.  Greater population density that leads to more traffic.

You've really not thought any of this through.  PP is right, your idea is to turn the city into the suburban cul de sac of your childhood.  That's a really bad long term idea.[/quote]

This is completely nonsensical. We don't need wider roads or things to speed up car traffic for buses.  We need modifications to speed up buses (which will slow down cars!)

Have you ... ever been to Manhattan?  [/quote]
I think it’s pretty clear that you’ve never been to Manhattan. 36% of the land area in Manhattan is roads. [/quote]

I think it's pretty clear you have an inane definition of "car friendly."  The fact that Manhattan has roads does not mean that a successful city needs to become more car friendly like Manhattan.  Yes, NYC, that place where everyone knows you need a car to survive  :roll: [/quote]
The land area of Manhattan is 36% road and the land area of DC is 25% road. I think that speaks for itself. [/quote]

Yes, it absolutely speaks for itself in your bizarro world.  Which, as far as I can tell, has the priors that: Manhattan, a very dense city where people use transit at 3x the rate as DC, proves that DC must become less dense and more car-friendly to be economically and culturally vibrant compared like Manhattan.  [/quote]
My god you’re dumb. How do you think in that dense landscape do people get access to products and services? Do the vegetables and meats for all of the restaurants in Manhattan get delivered by public transit?

In addition, it’s just hard for me to believe that you’ve been to NYC or were paying much attention when you were there. All of the avenues in Manhattan are 5 or 6 lanes wide. There is no equivalence in DC and it’s bizarre to not understand the lesson that more resilient and higher capacity road networks are needed to foster the growth and density you seem to want. You believe in a utopian aesthetic divorced from the real world.

What’s funny to me is that you don’t even seem to understand the basic dynamics that underlie this aesthetic that you cherish. Like for example, following Haussmann's renovation of Paris the city’s population grew dramatically and it became one of the great global cities. What Napoleon did was demolish old medieval quarters that were the prototypical “dense” and “walkable” because the streets were too narrow for carriages. The city was transformed and grew dramatically.

It’s weird that I have to give you these lessons like this. But I do recommend that you educate yourself more if you actually believe in this subject. Unfortunately, it seems that whatever superficial knowledge you have gleaned over Twittter and GGWash has unfortunately miseducated you.

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