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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?

How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?[/quote]

If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years. [/quote]

Jordan is too close.

The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.  [/quote]

You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US. [/quote]

Neither do you.  The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.

And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid?  I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words?  Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor?  Gratitude indeed.  [/quote]

And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property  theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?

Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.

The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people. [/quote]
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof. 
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.[/quote]

Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.

As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?![/quote]

it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans.  Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior.  "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel!  What could go wrong!"   40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"

Get real.  [/quote]
Save your breath. This is a troll who floods this board with hate and vitriol, posing as multiple posters and mostly likely getting paid for doing this.
It's beyond me why this individual is not blocked by the admin of this forum. There must be some alignment in views.[/quote]

It does seem probable that she is being paid per post.  Most add nothing new and just repeat the same fabrications and outlandish conspiracy theories ad nauseum.  [/quote]

Being paid by George Soros, no doubt? :-)

It's obviously easier to throw up simplistic conspiracy theories than to refute the criticisms of Israel made here. You seem to be one poster, posing as many. Are you being paid?:-)

Come back when you can address the specific claims made here about Israel's historical and on-going human rights abuses. [/quote]

Arguing that Oct 7 is fine, as have been every other act of Palestinian terror, because you think acts of self-defense by Israel are "human rights abuses" is facially laughable.  Oh, those poor maligned Palestinians!  Living in peace and harmony among their fellow men under the British Mandate until those mean Jews turned up after the Holocaust!  Sorry, no room here for you, said the Palestinians!

Strangely, the Jewish people had lived in the area since around 1000 BC, the land changing hands innumerable times thereafter.  Palestinians had and have no special claim to it and never have.  In fact, they lost it decisively in war in 1948.  A war started by the Arabs.  Too bad, so sad. Or self-inflicted "nakba" for you, if you prefer.

So come back here when you have a better story.  And forget about your sniveling about the Irgun and the Lohamey Heruth Israel, which fought against the British, not the Palestinians, to facilitate the immigration of Jews fleeing persecution in Europe, which the British resisted until they handed the issue over to the U.N. to resolve.  Which it did.  But not to the satisfaction of the Palestinians, who wanted everything for themselves.

Losers of wars they start are just losers, not victims of "human rights abuses".  Looks like the Palestinians are losers.  [/quote]

DP. I haven't seen anyone here argue that Oct 7 is "fine." I'm sure we all agree that it was wrong, horrible, terrible and that the death toll was exacerbated by the Israeli military's enthusiastic intervention (which appears to have burned and killed hundreds).

Many Palestinians were initially very welcoming toward Jews until Zionist terrorists began genociding them and stealing their land and property. You cannot argue that the Israeli forces had clean hands during the Nakba. Their atrocities are well-documented. Read Ilan Pappe's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, The Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi, or Teddy Katz's thesis. Are you seriously denying the occurrence of well-documented massacres at Deir Yassin, Tantura, Lydda, Ramle, Saliha, and too many others to mention? If so, no serious historian would agree with you. And why does Israel continue to keep its archives from that time secret if it is confident there were no atrocities?

Your claim that the Irgun only attacked the British and not the Palestinians demonstrates your historical illiteracy. The Irgun were involved in the Deir Yassin massacre and committed several other acts of terrorism against Palestinians. There is broad agreement about this among historians. That's why the UN, along with the US and British governments, described the Irgun as a terrorist organization.

Yes, Jews at one time lived in the area. Many other groups also lived there - both before and after. The fact that a particular group lived in a certain place millennia ago is entirely irrelevant. Some of the descendants of Jews became Christians, Druze, and Muslims and remained in Palestine until they were ethnically-cleansed or murdered by Zionist gangs during the Nakba. These people had been happily living there going back hundreds of years, and still have the right of return or just compensation through UN Resolution 194. Zionists started the Arab-Israeli war by perpetrating genocide against the indigenous people of the region. The Arab countries declared war in part in response to the atrocities.

Come back after you've brushed up on your history.

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