Reply to Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Forum Index » Political Discussion

Reply to "Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable "

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Z is Jewish and the biggest proponents of Ukraine support in the us are Jewish (blinken, nuland, Sherman, frum, applebaum, Goldberg)

Proposal:

If Ukraine wants more funding, a special excise tax is levied on Jews to pay for it

[/quote]

WTF is your problem.

Ukraine has poured its blood trying to save its country, and once Ukraine falls, god forbid, then NATO states will be at risk, which means US involvement directly.[/quote]

Nope, Jewish guy poured Ukrainian people blood to get more money. Nothing new in this world. Will we call these war a genocide of Ukrainians by jewish people in 20 years? [/quote]

This is antisemitism rubbish.

1. Religion does not denote nationality
2. Ukraine did not invite or expect Outin to brutally invade its country so it is extremely cynical to blame this “on a Jew”
3. The Germans [b]and Soviets [/b]were responsible for >1 million Ukrainian Jews being murdered during WW2. That was a genocide.
4. The only people committing genocide here are Russians trying to kill of Ukrainian language, culture and ethnicity for insane and unnecessary empire building .
[/quote]

Look at the names of "the Soviets" who were responsible for > 1 million oof Ukrainian jews being murdered. There are majority of jewish names in the top level of politburo who were in charge of a genocide. The history repeats itself because people did not learn their lesson. [/quote]

There is absolutely no evidence for this victim blaming take - partly because the Soviets suppressed a lot of info about the Holocaust by bullets in Ukraine. You have some gall - calling out Zelensky for being Jewish as if that diminishes his patriotism and blaming Jews for the Holocaust. Disgusting anti senitism. Truly.

The “Holocaust by Bullets” in Ukraine | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

There are several reasons that help explain why the “Holocaust by bullets” and the study of the Holocaust in Ukraine remains a lesser-known aspect of the Holocaust. First, Holocaust Studies only established itself as a field in the 1990s. In the beginning, the field tended to focus on antisemitism within the highest decision-making levels of the Third Reich.

Secondly, “Auschwitz syndrome,” or the tendency among historians, philosophers, political scientists, and the general public to focus on the killing centers where an estimated 3 million men, women, and children were gassed and cremated in an industrialized, systematic fashion, also drove scholarship in the early stages of Holocaust Studies. In this way, according to Lower and Brandon, “Auschwitz became the central symbol of modernity derailed, the nadir of Western civilization,” which inevitably led scholars to neglect other places where the Holocaust unfolded in a different way.

Third, until 1991, scholars lacked access to the regional archives of the former Soviet Union. During the Cold War, Soviet officials sought to repress most discussions of the unique fate of Jews under Nazi rule. Instead, Soviet scholars examined the suffering of all “peaceful citizens,” which undoubtedly included the destruction of the Jewish population, but also focused on a wide range non-Jewish of victims. According to Wendy Lower and Ray Brandon, “this manifestation of Soviet antisemitism guaranteed that the archives in Ukraine [and other successor states] remained closed until the Soviet Union collapse.”
Today, the killing sites in Ukraine are practically undetectable. As Paul A. Shapiro writes, these places “offer up none of the architectural design elements that shape the iconic imagery of the Holocaust memorial sites worldwide—“Arbeit Macht Frei” encased in ironwork, the curve of the arched gateway to Auschwitz-Birkenau, or the chimney of a crematorium.”

Many of the Jewish victims murdered by the Nazis remain invisible as well. According to the Central Database of Shoah Victims’ Names kept by the Holocaust Reembrace Center in Yad Vashem, about 50 percent of the Jewish victims of “the Holocaust by bullets,” still remain to be identified.
Although there is no “architecture of destruction” at the killing sites in Ukraine, the first Jewish victims of the Holocaust did not simply disappear from the face of the earth, and “the Holocaust by bullets” is crucial to understanding how the Holocaust developed. “For every echelon of the Nazi regime,” the historian Raul Hilberg argues, “the summer months of 1941 mark a transition from uncertainty to certainty” as policies aimed toward the male Jewish population quickly expanded to include entire Jewish communities.

Moreover, it was after shooting Jewish victims en mass that the German policy towards Jews took a fateful turn. Mass murder by gunfire took a cumulative toll on German soldiers and proved inefficient in achieving goals aimed at exterminating all Jews. It was the experience and failures of “Holocaust by bullets” that eventually led to the decision to shift to an organized, systematic murder of Jews in the form of industrial extermination camps[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics