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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Relocated or dead? Biden championed death. [/quote] Biden supported a 2 state solution and Palestinian independence (albeit toothlessly). Trump opposes both. Which do you think is better for Palestinians?[/quote] Trump, obviously. Get the Palestinians far enough away that they can't keep attacking Israel and there will be fewer Palestinian deaths from the predictable and reasonable Israeli responses. Left in place, history shows the Palestinians will never be content to leave well enough alone and will keep trying to fight battles with Israel they historically never win. Their perpetual optimism that they somehow will ever prevail is underpinned by no reality, but keeps them coming back for seconds, thirds, etc. They need to be neutered by being relocated far enough away that they can't keep entertaining such feckless fantasies of eventual dominance. [/quote] History? Well that also shows that Jews get chased out of every where they try to live because they cause issues, so Palestinian resistance is warranted if you want to consider history. [/quote] Antisemitism is based in envy of Jewish success, and in a lack of religious tolerance, nothing more. In the countries where Jews experienced pogroms and persecution, they did nothing to provoke them; they had lived peacefully among the local populations for centuries until political tides turned against them, typically during periods when governments looked for minority population scapegoats to explain failed economic policies. Anti-Palestinian sentiment is based on not wanting to live anywhere near people who opt for terrorism, violence, corruption, and perpetual poverty over over peace and a stable, successful civil society. We all know about the so-called nakba excuse but 77 years of failure to thrive and that's still all they have. [/quote] Antisemitism, Islamophobia, Orientalism, and every other type of bigotry stem from the same source -- racism and intolerance. White supremacy, Zionism, Aryanism, and every other ideology that promotes one's own group over others are similarly motivated. Blaming Palestinians for their own predicament is no different from blaming Jews for the Holocaust and is similarly vile. Israel has stolen from and abused Palestinians for decades. [/quote] Actually, the two are quite different. Jews in Germany did nothing to provoke the German government. They were simply part of German society, albeit practicing a minority religion. Palestinians, in contrast, have done nothing to help themselves in 77 years, and actively and frequently attack Israel. Israel understandably and reasonably counterattacks and takes other measures, like erecting physical barriers to contain the attackers, leaving the Palestinians worse off every time. Israeli restrained responses end well short of fully exterminating their attackers, leaving them free to re-arm and try again. There is no comparison between the two. [/quote] Jews did lots to provoke European governments namely communism and the promotion of pedophilia and transgenderism (Sigmund Freud was a pedophile. Why are we taught about him in school?) The Germans burned lots of perverted and satanic books all written by Jews. Then, there's the bankers bankrolling both sides of WW1. None of this gave a reason to kill Jews but the idea that Jews were just docile lambs across Europe who didnt commit any violence is untrue. Germans were terrified of communism and the 12 million killled in gulags and death camps in the Soviet Union thanks to Bolshevism/Marxist-Leninism. This ideology killed way more than Hamas and maybe its a coincidence but it started by Jews.[/quote] You realize that nothing you say is actually based on facts, right? Making things up is not a positive contribution. Maybe it's time to learn some real history. [/quote] Where's the lie?[/quote]
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