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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I suspect that Brandon and Teresa have made some separate agreement about visits, or some other arrangement [b]that keeps the adoption from actually "closing,"[/b] but have also stood firm that they will not be involved with MTV in any way.  We're only seeing the MTV side, so who knows what really went down.  From what we've seen, they have made it clear that they do not want Carly on the show, and have asked Cate and Tyler many, many times to stop talking about her during filming, stop referencing their conversations, and not to post pictures of her on their public social media.  Tyler especially has not followed these requests.

I think there could be a relationship there, even with C&T's questionable behavior, IF they would only follow the requests about putting Carly in the public eye.  B&T would obviously control the relationship and access to Carly, but wouldn't cut off contact.  But Tyler refuses to be "silenced."  I've always thought that Teresa felt a special bond with Catelynn and wants to be a mentor or something for her.  at the very least, a role model of what a successful wife, mother, and woman could be, since Cate is completely missing that in her life.[/quote]

[b]The adoption is final. I believe though, it's an open adoption. [/b] Open is defined differently with different agencies.  It may mean sending report cards and visits once a quarter, or it may mean the parents sending a letter and two pictures once a year.  They may know Carly's home address, or may not.  We don't know. [/quote]

Yes.  Open adoptions often become closed adoption, eventually.  By "closing" I didn't mean become finalized, I meant moving from open adoption to closed adoption.  One ep showed the text from the agreement that everyone signed back when they were 16, though it's not legally binding.  C&T requested pictures once a year, and a few other things, I forget.  They all also agreed that C&T can request visits with Carly, which can be granted at B&T's discretion.  If B&T decide to close the adoption, all of that is over.  I would guarantee that they do not know Carly's home address, given the complete lack of boundaries C&T and their families have shown.  Gifts and communication are sent through Bethany.  B&T did not want Carly to interact with Butch at the wedding, and he violated that.  Tyler's mom got their phone number from his phone and called them to bed them to come to his high school graduation.  It was quite a while before they even learned Carly's last name, and the yearly visits have always been at a mutual location--New York one year, West Virginia another time, never in B&T's hometown, and certainly not their house.

Unfortunately, we actually do know a lot about this specific adoption, because despite being asked to keep details private, Tyler has been unable to keep his trap--and typing fingers--from spewing.[/quote]

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