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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Finally, you asked why women taking the oath had a lengthy list of strict, oppressive conditions attached. It wasn't a lengthy list at all. And it was not oppressive. The list asked anyone, not just women, who was taking the oath, to not commit infanticide, not commit fornication or adultery, not attack Muslims, and not attack Prophet Muhammad. Hardly oppressive. In fact, pagan arabs those days were engaged in all kinds of cruel or indecent behavior, and it was an abomination and affront to humanity.[/quote] Provide evidence this was asked for everyone, not just women. Were men asked to prove they didn't have illegitimate children?[/quote] Even today, if a woman had illegitimate children, she would still be permitted to convert to Islam. Past sins will never be held against a person who converts to Islam. Where are you getting this info from that a woman was required to prove she didn't have illegitimate children to take this oath?[/quote] Don't change the subject. This wasn't required of them to qualify for conversion for Islam; this surah presumes they are already Muslims. This verse asks them to prove they didn't have illegitimate children if they wanted to join Muslims in Medina (what you're trying to sell as a semblance of voting). "Prophet, when believing women come and pledge to you that they will not ascribe any partner to God, nor steal, nor commit adultery, nor kill their children, [b]nor lie about who has fathered their children (things they fabricate between their hands and their feet)[/b], nor disobey you in any righteous thing, then you should accept their pledge of allegiance and pray to God to forgive them: God is most forgiving and merciful." So, here you go. I ask you again: if you claim this oath of allegiance was available to men and children, what are the things men were asked to prove? What were the things children were asked to prove? And yes, I know it's a big marketing point for the dawwah crowd that once you convert, all your past sins go bye-bye in the eyes of God. I wonder if this was the reason Islam remains popular among the inmates. [/quote] Please provide the sura and verse for the quoted passage and also which Quran you are pulling this from. The oath is described in Sura 60 verse 12.[/quote]
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