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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Regarding kids who don't speak English getting special consideration: last time I looked, most schools were taught in English. So if the kid doesn't speak English well by K, they will be behind, no matter how brilliant they might be in their native language. These kids will have lots of catching up to do so I don't think G&T would be the right place for them. [/b]Parents planning to raise their kids in America should immerse their kids in English. Have them sit and watch Sesame Street or something similar all day. Have them listen to Clyde Frazier call Knicks games. Cab drivers listen to the radio all day to learn English.

Kindergarten G&T is dumb. My kids took the test. They actually did really well on them. We are zoned for a great public and thought it was better than G&T. But unlike so many other parents whose kids do well on the test, I did not see this as proof that my snowflake was brilliant. My child also bombed the Hunter test.

I'm not sure what the right answer is. I really don't like Mamdani but don't totally disagree with him on this, though I think that getting rid of G&T should be a low priority for him and he should have just dodged the question as he dodges so many others.

These activists getting so upset about this because they think they are so smart are just showing how dumb they are, but most of them proved that long ago.[/quote]

You are very wrong.

I am an immigrant, and my kids did not speak English well until they started K.  They caught up super fast.  Same story with many of my friends.  In fact, I haven’t met a single normally developing child who was really bright in their native language and couldn’t quickly catch up to the same level in English.  It’s NBD.

What is really hard, though, is keeping up the native language once the kid gets immersed in English, so it helps to get a good head start there, that’s why I did not emphasize English with my kids until they started school.  As to the benefits of being bilingual, you are welcome to do your own research.[/quote]

And they were likely behind socializing. Which is a huge part of what kindergarten is about. And they are less proficient in idioms, cultural references, etc. You are exactly the know-it-all immigrant the other poster was referring to above - your metrics for "succeeding" are very different than those of many native born Americans. But you are so convinced that you are right and the rules of your community are right, rather than stopping to look around.

Fluently speaking a second language is a very nice to have, but not a need to have. Native fluency in the language of where you live is more important. And again, I think we have different definitions of "native fluency."[/quote]

Yea. If that poster’s five year old doesn’t listen to Taylor swift talk about Kelce’s junk inside of her then they missed out on socialization and cultural references. Good ole American values [/quote]

I am just talking about knowing who Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are. Way to oversimplify things. Further proving my point. You live your best life. I'll live mine. Then you will complain about your kid not getting into top schools because they didn't do well in interviews and essays and complain that it's not a meritocracy.[/quote]

My sons went to MIT and Princeton and have had promising starts to their careers. I’m “FOTB” as another poster calls foreigners. [/quote]

I’ve lost track of this issue but I seriously hope people are not stupid enough to vote against someone who is overwhelmingly a candidate who wants to work for people other than the billionaire class over a stupid gifted and talented school issue, especially for testing of 3/4 year olds. Seriously. Get a hold of yourselves. There are lots of good Gen Ed elementary schools. Use a friends address if you need to and move on. [/quote]

Not PP: I've voted on G&T alone before. Everyone has specific issues that are important to them and are free to vote as they please. I'm sure you have based decisions to vote on issues that I think are asinine. G&T isn't a stupid issue, especially when you have a child reading at 3.5 yo. And yes, kids can be, and are already, being tested at that age in NYC.[/quote]

Yes, I’m aware. I had multiple kids go through the NYC school system. You do not need to test at that age. Get over it. There are plenty of good gen Ed’s. Supplement if you need to (and I found most FOB did- fine by me) and be prepared for other kids to quickly catch up to your ‘gifted’ 3 year old. [/quote]

Nah to each their own. Too many pregnant 12 year olds with felon dropout baby daddys in the gen ed schools. Lots of 48 year old great great grandmothers (more common than not)[/quote]

You are exaggerating but as I said above, use a friends address if your local gen ed is so terrible. Or move. I had dc at both gen ed and at g&t. We actually opted not to do SHSAT, and people thought we were crazy. But we found that there wasn’t a huge difference across schools, and we chose schools for our dc based on overall fit.  Everything worked out for my dc and they are happy and well adjusted to boot. [/quote]

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