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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Over the decades, [b]Palestinians have repeatedly pursued peaceful and nonviolent paths[/b] toward a just resolution with Israel — including diplomacy through the PLO’s recognition of Israel in 1988, participation in peace talks like Oslo and Camp David, grassroots nonviolent protests in places like Bil’in and Sheikh Jarrah, civil society initiatives for coexistence, and appeals to international law and the UN. Despite these efforts, continued occupation, settlement expansion, and lack of political progress have undermined peaceful strategies and fueled cycles of frustration.[/quote]

Yeah see the thing about nonviolence is it kind of has to be your EXCLUSIVE approach. If “civil society initiatives” and “nonviolent protests” (both of which I wholeheartedly support) happen ALONGSIDE constant terrorism, they’re not going to have an effect. For reference, Oslo was in 1993 and Camp David was in 2000. In 1994 there were 26 terrorist attacks in Israel and in 2001 there were 118: https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisraelsum.html. [/quote]

Thank you for dictating “the rules” …

Now, then. Please apply them to the attitudes and actual conduct of Zionists pre-1948 and report back to us.

I’m assuming we will hear from you that non-violence was the exclusive approach toward “getting what the Zionists wanted”, yeah?

That’s what I thought. Hypocrite.[/quote]

Setting aside that there was violence on both sides pre-1948, from just a purely pragmatic point of view: what has terrorism accomplished? I’m not even making a moral argument here.

Israel is more powerful militarily. It doesn’t really have to make concessions. It absolutely will if the Palestinians can guarantee one thing: security. But they haven’t shown that they can do that, so why would Israel sacrifice their own interests? Because a bunch of keffiyeh-wearing sociology majors yell at them? [/quote]

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