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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have never heard of a summer team where anyone but the coaches did the meet lineup. Just wild!![/quote]

This happens regularly at my pool. Sometimes it’s subtle, like the rep’s kid somehow being in lane 4 even though the other 2 teammates had faster times. (They entered them as NT to make it work) Sometimes it’s a rep asking a coach to get a swimmer a coach time in practice to move a kid into a relay spot. We actually lost a phenomenal coach after a year over the meddling. Now we have a college age coach who isn’t particularly good and just lets the reps do it.[/quote]

It's unbelievable; there are definitely politics at our D1 pool, but nothing like this. I wouldn't allow my child to participate with this kind of meddling.[/quote]

We left a mid-level NVSL pool for a D1 pool and could not be happier. Everything is clear and transparent, and our kids (at least 12Us) don’t give a hoot if the friend is A, B, combo, or not even swim team meet-type. [/quote]

Clear and transparent is super important to keep families and swimmers engaged.  When reps and other people meddle with lineups or try to sway coaches on meet decisions it makes people want to leave.

We are also at a D1 pool and the other families are amazing.  [b]The kids encourage and cheer for their peers[/b].  They also all understand that we win and lose as a team, they are not hostile towards each other but are instead encouraging.  We absolutely love it![/quote]

Do they stay for the entire meet? [/quote]

MCSL parent and rep here. That’s our expectation of the kids for both A and B meets.

My own kid knows that the only meet where we leave early is the one when the out of town grandparents attend (grandmother is extremely heat sensitive).[/quote]

There is no expectation on our MCSL team that kids stay for an entire B meet. Many of those kids are 6, 7, 8 years old swimming only freestyle. It makes no sense for them to stay until 9:30pm when the last fly race ends. A meets, kids are expected to stay for the whole thing to cheer on the team.[/quote]

+1 from an MCSL parent and official.  There's tons of cheering at the B meets, but no one expects anyone to stay until the bitter end.  My kids were almost exclusively B meet swimmers their first two years and we never thought anything of people leaving when they were done.

A meets, absolutely people stay.  We've had to make that expectation clear to new families, usually with 8&U kids who don't know about the graduated free relay.[/quote]

See, that’s what I would like to see happen during our A meets instead of so many people leaving when they are done swimming. I understand not staying at a B meet.[/quote]

Coaches and reps need to communicate and set the expectation before the season starts that Saturday meets are team from start to finish.  The swimmers, especially the older kids, need to bring in the younger kids and new swimmers to A meets and have them feel a part of the team--screaming and cheering the entire meet and invested in the outcome of races regardless of the score.  The culture is built with every new 8&U who participates.  I suppose this is appropriate in a thread about summer swim bringing out the crazy.  Embrace it![/quote]

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