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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This whole thing is about due process. He was sent to a prison in El Salvador without being given due process. He needs to return here so that he can go through the due process. The Supreme Court voted 9-0 that he needs to be returned for God's sake. Do you think that the SCOTUS does not understand the laws of this country? Every single one of them voted the same way. Let that sink in. People can make all kinds of conjectures about his gang membership or whatever, but the fact remains that he was ILLEGALLY sent to El Salvador. He was not "deported". He was merely sent there based on no evidence. This is ILLEGAL. It is FAR more important to hold our government to account than any details of this case. If we let our government do this, we are looking at a government that can do whatever it wants with people. No day in court folks. You are just sent into a black hole somewhere. [/quote] Ok. Then they should correct the paperwork errors that made this illegal and send his no good, violent, ugly, gangster self back to the country where he is an actual citizen. [/quote] Have you ever stopped to think about *why* Trump is refusing to bring him back to follow proper procedure/fix the paperwork??[/quote]snafu. Yes. I am aware it is because the sovereign government of El Salvador said no. What do you want, Trump to invade them and kidnap Kilmar?[/quote] And so the next time Trump ignores the Supreme court, that will be ok? And when a future Dem leader does, that will be ok? (note that MAGAs were up in arms over Biden possibly ignoring the Supreme court on student loans but he did adapt approach within existing law so do not even try and say Biden did, as he did not)[/quote] Explain to me how you propose that Trump get Kilmar back from a sovereign nation who is refusing to comply, given that he's a citizen. We cant even get US citizens back from Hamas or Russia. Spitball some solutions. Should we trade Justin Bieber for him? Pay for his release? And to what end? To reprocess his deportation?[/quote] NP. The PP wants the word "facilitate" to mean "effectuate", which the Supreme Court expressly rejected. If the U.S. has a contractual right to ASK for his return, then it could ask - BUT if the President of El Salvador says NO, and the contract does not consider such refusal to be a breach of contract, then that's the end of this entire situation. President Trump could also have an immigration hearing that lifts the protection order on the deportation order (barring deportation to El Salvador), thereby satisfying Due Process and leaving an El Salvador citizen in the custody of his own government.[/quote] Then just hold an immigration hearing in absentia. Trump can order the immigration judge to rule how he wants because immigration judges are merely employees of the DOJ; nothing more. Or AG Bondi could certify the case to herself, and make the judge’s ruling in accordance with trump’s wishes. It would all be perfectly legal.[/quote] Well, they could hold an immigration hearing virtually. If the result is removal of the deportation hold, then he stays put. [/quote]
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