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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And I've been to academy facilities in over 20 countries...I have seen it with my own eyes.  [/quote]

If you're claiming you visited academies in 20 countries and all you saw were state of the art modern facilities and fields, you must also have a part time job selling sand in the dessert and the Brooklyn Bridge to tourists.

Or you were extremely selective in where you went (benefit of the doubt)[/quote]

NO.  I'm saying the facilities I've seen are better than DCUs.  Some good, some average some basic.  All better than what DCU has.  [/quote]

Maybe the rest of MLS academies should have facilities like the ones you saw, since none of them are sending players to top level professional clubs consistently. [/quote]

The rest of the MLS academies have equivalent facilities.  Some better, some worse.  Again, all better than DCU.  You can't win.   [/quote]

Academies are measured by
1. Number of players signed to Professional Ranks (premier divisions)
2. Revenue generated by sale of players to Professional Clubs

They could be training on pristine hybrid turf or concrete. Doesn't matter.[/quote]

And both of those statistics are crap for DCU.  Next [/quote]

Which MLS Club Academies are bossing in these statistics?[/quote]

Red bulls and Philly. Double the homegrown and more revenue generated than DCU [/quote]

Show me the revenue earned from Philly Union and Red Bulls on sales of their academy players?[/quote]

Lets just take the most high profile homegrown sales from Philly Union in the last 6 or so years since none of the Academies really had many sales of players in the mid to early 2000s and compare those to DCUs most high profile sales in the same period:

All information is publicly available and can be confirmed on Transfermarkt.com (which, if you don't know, is the leading global resource on player transfers.  These transfers are confirmed by the site through FIFA).  Debating the legitimacy of Transfermarkt is useless so don't even go there.

DCU:
Kevin Paredes: 7mil
Griffin Yow: 100K (now worth 4 mil. Massive loss for DCU)
Moses Nyeman: 350K (but was worth 1mil at time of sale. Undervalued him at the time of sale)
Donovan Pines: Left for free (meaning he left and DCU got no money.  Now he is estimated to be worth 1.7mil Euros playing in England.)
[b]Total: 7.45 mil[/b]

Philly Union:
Auston Trusty: 680K
Mark Mckenzie: 6.6 mil
Brendan Aaronson: 12.5 mil
Paxton Aaronson: 4 mil
Cavan Sullivan: when 18, 5mil transfer to Man City with incentives (contract is done)
[b]Total: 28.7 mil[/b]

So basically FOUR times as much money was made by Philly compared to DCU on the sales of homegrowns.  There really isn't a comparison.  Also, look at how much money DCU has actually LOST on the transfers.  Also shows the poor front office decisions that are being made and how the players are leaving and actually developing faster (and becoming more valuable) in better environments. Philly also has more homegrowns that haven't been sold during that time.

What you're seeing at Red Bulls is that they are holding on to their homegrowns for longer because they believe they can develop them in house and get more money on the transfers later (something DCU cannot do, which is the entire point of this thread).  They have had 14 homegrown signings since 2020 and DCU 7.  Double.

But this is all false too I guess??  LOL[/quote]

FC Dallas has numbers somewhere in the 20-30 mil too (Pepi, Cannon, Richards, Tessman) just to name a few.  And if they would have gotten money for Weston Mckinnie (which they lost out on and one of the reasons why homegrown rules were even put into place) the numbers would be even higher.

Its actually silly to compare these academies to DCU.  They are just on a different level.[/quote]

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