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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is absolutely true that the eugenics movement was a liberal progressive movement (using today’s political terms), but there were plenty of conservatives who also actively promoted the movement. Although its roots were in the liberal progressives, and the thought leadership was in that group, it was enthusiastically embraced by conservatives. In other words, while it is true Sanger was a racist who specifically targeted Black women, she was hardly alone and had plenty of conservatives along with her.

In short, yes, we have a very ugly history of eugenics and yes, the abortion rights movement is part of that, but not just that movement.

I’m curious about the person who keeps saying that close to 100% of parents choose to terminate for genetic abnormalities in places like Iceland. Do you think that makes that termination morally and ethically [i]right[/i]? There has been a lot in human history that was done universally that we now recognize as abhorrent. [b]Personally[/b] I do not think it is a good thing for us as a society to eliminate all children with genetic abnormalities routinely. [/quote]
Then [i]personally[/i] you can make the [i]personal[/i] choice to [i]personally[/i] carry your [i]personal[/i] pregnancy with a fetus with severe genetic abnormalities to term - no one is going to force you to abort it. [/quote]

That’s a cop-out. If you create a society where it is expected that genetically abnormal fetuses are terminated, it is very hard to choose not to do that. And the state can make your life much harder; look what happened in China to female fetuses under the one-child rules. No woman goes through pregnancy in a vacuum, and it is a cop-out to shrug and say that well, it’s a personal decision. It’s absolutely not only personal.

We are moving to a society where people with genetic disabilities do not even get a chance to exist. Do the people who are strongly pro-choice here (especially the ones who favor termination through the third trimester in event of genetic abnormalities) think that is actually morally and ethically right? What other genetic issues do you think women should be able to terminate through the ninth month for? [/quote]

LOL the state already makes life hard enough! Do you have any idea of the financial burden of severely disabled child? Of the scarcity of medical support needed throughout their life? Of therapies and additional childcare they need? Have you ever tried to make an appointment with a developmental pediatrician?[/quote]

Yes to all of that, which is exactly why I am pushing this point. It’s not abstract to me. [/quote]

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