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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trump's defenders cling to two atarguments: [b]1 - the President of the United States is not an "officer"; and [/b] 2- He's never been convicted Both arguments are complete BS and fly in the face of logic and jurisprudence[/quote] The 14th amendment, Section 3 also includes "or hold any office, civil or military..." The Office of the President is most definitely an office. So whether you consider him an officer or not, the 14th amendment would not allow Trump to hold the office of the President.[/quote] Not to give the argument to much credence, but I think it is more focused on the other part of section 3, where the disqualification only applies to anyone "who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States." So basically they are saying that the oath he took as president was not as "an officer of the United States" and therefore doesn't count. However, the oath of the dogcatcher would count. Because that makes total sense.[/quote] That's ridiculous. The definition of officer includes: one who holds an office of trust, authority, or command also a holder of a public, civil, or ecclesiastical office. The oath of office that he took: [quote]Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: – “[b]I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,[/b] and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” [/quote] He most definitely held and executed the office of the President of the United States. [/quote]
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