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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was appalled when I heard about this story and sided with Dawn, but damn when I read her posts about her donation my eyes roll back so far in my head it hurts. I would have had a very hard time not being sarcastic to her. Maybe my problem is I know too many women who do charity for attention. One message she sent to Sonya she talked about attending a charity function with Jayne Seymore and being so proud that the doctor who took her kidney mentioned her kidney "just gushing urine". Ugh. I would have stopped talking to her and avoided her but I know I would have made comments to a mutual friend about her. In any group I've been in there would be at least one adult who would shut the nastiness down so we would only go on so long. No one in that group admitted that they were the ones doing the stalking. What an empty echo chamber they were. [/quote] I basically agree with this. I think Dawn seems incredibly annoying and she is not emailing me demanding still further replies/explication/defense/etc. She is just so needy that I know I would avoid her as much as I could. I could also see complaining about her to friends when she emailed me yet again. In fact, I know that I would. Also, her motive in trying to get Sonya basically cancelled was either trying to get something out of it for herself (credit on the story, which she didn't deserve by the time we get to the published piece) or pure revenge; neither of those are exactly laudatory. I also sympathize with Sonya's inclination to try to remain "nice" in her email exchanges. A lot of people hold this against her/say she was stringing Dawn along, but I think most women are trained to do exactly what she did: play nice, avoid confrontation, move along; Dawn was living in Cali by then, pretending to be her friend just avoids awkwardness and, possibly, her trying to cancel you. (I mean, Dawn really did not let this go and even if she was entirely justified, I can see why Sonya wouldn't assume that if she just bowed out earlier, Dawn would just let it go at that. The temptation to placate would be there for most people.) That said, Sonya is obviously a total mean girl and went way too far. But, on some level, at least Dawn was reaching out and annoying her. [b]The other writers I cannot empathize with at all. They don't even know this woman (Ng met her once??) and spend all of this energy totally trashing her? In my friend set, the non-involved people would *at most* be like "ugh, so annoying"... in no world would they randomly egg on/pile on.[/b] If it got too mean, someone would say so and probably remind us all that, totally cringey or not, she's ultimately a person who would donate a kidney to a stranger and we should all just move on.[/quote] This is what gets me most upset by the situation. I have a group chat where we at times snark on bloggers or influencers that annoy us. Some of our messages about these people are probably somewhat similar to the Chunky Monkeys group chats, but the difference is that there is no way on earth my friend group would support one of the group in writing a story for publication that would be something meant to embarrass or hurt that person. These people knew that Dawn would be embarrassed and hurt by this story and they also sought out interactions with her (via this facebook group) specifically to continue ridiculing her. They went too far and most people, even those who engage in catty behavior, can see it, and instead of all apologizing, they doubled down on their vitriol and brought in this fake racism angle, which is disgusting and harmful to all.[/quote]
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