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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Don’t get it. if the grocery stores are safe then the managers should be there. And the regional managers should be stopping in periodically for the day. Seems to me that the school board and senior leaders can handle a live meeting every 2 weeks if community spread makes it safe enough to return to school![/quote]

It’s been explained repeatedly.  If you’re incapable of understanding, we can’t help you.[/quote]

“Teachers and kids and the lowest paid earners like grocery store clerks and servers should be at work at risk but everyone else should still be able to work at home safely.” We know. [/quote]

+1. If the School Board said, "Hey, we are meeting virtually because we want to keep community spread as low as possible, and we want the BOS and our national leaders to shut down all non-essential businesses and require telework for everyone who is not an essential worker so that schools can remain open and health systems don't get overrun", that would be one thing. They aren't saying that. They're meeting virtually because THEY don't want to risk exposure to Covid but can't say so because it's terrible optics.

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School Board doesn’t need to be in person to do their job effectively. Teachers do.[/quote]

[b]Disagree. My kids are doing great with virtual learning, thanks to their teachers. I would also disagree that the School Board has been doing an effective job virtually. Maybe they should try meeting in person.[/b][/quote]

DP.  I completely agree with you.  Our kids are thriving and making progress with DL.  They are quite happy doing DL and not having to deal with the misbehaving idiots who get 90% of the teacher's time because she's trying to keep them in line.  Now those kids can't act out in a way that disrupts learning so it is a complete win-win for my kids.  Finally![/quote]

How are you measuring progress as compared to a traditional school year?[/quote]

The younger two are learning the exact same thing their older sibling learned in previous years. iReady scores look great. I'm not sure whether they're doing the IAAT, but I expect our oldest child to do well on it if they do. His school sent out a couple sample questions and he had no problem with them.[/quote]

They're receiving curriculum at the same pace and depth?[/quote]

I am the "DP" and I agree with the poster talking about her younger two.  I am able to measure our kids' against their older siblings.  Homework is similar.  Tests are similar.  Pacing is similar (one kid the order has changed but the pacing is about right).  For all the talk about the shortened week I think my kids' teachers are getting more done because they don't have to deal with the behavior problems.  I really feel like my kids are learning more than their siblings because of that.[/quote]

I think it’s the parents of the behavior problem kids who are going crazy right now about the need to open up schools.  As a teacher, what I like best about DL is that I don’t have to deal with those kinds of disruptions.  I can give more time to the quiet students who are TOO well behaved to demand or seek out help, and so are usually deprived of attention.   I am seeing some students flourish in DL and it is heartening.

To me, the big problem with classrooms these days is that a good 10 percent of children have serious behavior problems that no one (including myself) knows how to manage or deal with.  The solution for most of us (including their OpenFCPS parents) its avoidance.  Try to get them out of the classroom when they have tantrums or bully and harass other children.  (Schools these days don’t make that easy because administrators and librarians are trying to avoid the problem, too — they will refuse to “shelter” to the misbehaving exile, and will send him right back to the classroom).

I am really sympathetic to the parents of these children.  I don’t assume that it’s their fault that their kids are difficult, but if they can’t handle their children for a full workday, then chances are, other people can’t either.   If school weren’t  the scotch tape holding so many social programs together on a shoestring budget, it COULD  be an institution that would employ behavioral experts who could work out disciplinary plans and routines to be followed by all the adults who supervise him.  Unfortunately, schools and classrooms are overcrowded and teachers are responsible for too many children at once to do this. 
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Your response to me, the PP parent, is very interesting because it buttresses what I am saying.  My kids most certainly are thriving.  I've posted before on other threads about the fact that two of my kids are foster kids who came to us 2-3-4 years below grade level depending on the subject.  They were making some progress from October through March when we were in the in-school learning but they have taken off like rockets in the time since then.  The focused learning, the personalized attention, the quiet environment, the ability to take a lot of breaks has been great for them.  I love that we can find everything organized and in one place online.  It has been really helpful in teaching them executive functioning and self-regulation skills.

I agree with your assessment about the children with behavior problems.  I do think that the fact that the kids have behavior problems is the driver for many parents who are wanting to reopen schools.  It is very sad for both the kids and the parents.[/quote]

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