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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Women can still have women's rights.  They just need to make sure the emotional needs of past and present male identifying people are met first.
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As it has always been. Sigh.[/quote]

This is pathetic. Trans women face discrimination and prejudice and bigotry every single day of their lives. Double that if they’re also Black or a person of color in which case they face increased rates of violence. But yeah you two are def the ones being oppressed here. [/quote]

This isn’t supposed to be a race to the bottom, where the most oppressed party wins.  There are principles of equal treatment and human dignity we expect society to uphold.

Women fought long and hard for equal treatment under the law.  [b]People aren’t arguing to take away rights from transgender people. [/b] But some aspects of our society, like competition in sports, are divided by sex (not gender identity), to give women an equal chance to participate in those activities.

Some accommodations, like homeless shelters or domestic violence services, are divided by sex to give protection to vulnerable members of society.  No one is stopping people concerned about vulnerable transgender people from creating programs and services for them.  They’re objecting to having to include them in the same programs as natural-born women.  If you require everyone to say that transgender women are women, you end up ignoring reality and end up providing cover for men who want access to vulnerable women.  Women in those situations have a right to privacy and dignity.  Transgender women have those same rights, and can be served by having their own programs and protections.  [/quote]

Guess you haven’t read the news. 
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The PP means *on this thread* (and I suspect you know it).

The anti-JKR people on this thread are creating conflicts where there are none.  So many PPs on this thread have specifically stated that while they agree with points JKR is making, they do not want trans women to come to harm, be bullied or be discriminated against.  They *want* there to be programs and support for trans women, but they don't want women to suffer either.[/quote]

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