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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We are finite, physical beings in time and space, while God is an infinite, immaterial being outside of time and space.  (Since we have been stuck at the first step, whether God exists at all, we have not moved on to His attributes, but bear with me a moment.)  If we could fully comprehend such a being, we would not be human.[/quote]

This will be an interesting trick, by the way.  PP is clinging tightly to their assertion that God is "outside the material world", which is pretty much *the* critical attribute of the god hypothesis.  Of course you can't subject god to the rational inquiry, that's because we make no positive claims whatsoever about god's behavior that can be falsified.

So assume the rationalists agree, "Ok, fine!  Your God exists.  But all you've demonstrated is that he's a God who has no agency in this material universe.  He's a completely spiritual force that has no power to do anything other than to, say, tweak folks' "souls", which also have no material manifestation whatsoever."

The next step of the anti-rationalists is to say, "Ok, now that we know God exists, here are all the magical properties he has which extend into the material world."

Getting back to the leprechaun example, it's as if we agreed that leprechauns exist, but are invisible, have no physical presence, and cannot communicate or impact the physical plane in any way whatsoever.  Great, so what use are they?  [/quote]

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