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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no “program” at asfs.  I might be giving away who I am here, but I have a middle schooler and a couple of younger kids.  The school today is very different from where it was ten years ago.  There are no science songs being sung in kindergarten.   A lot of the veteran teachers who had been there for decades have left in the past two years.  The teacher turn over at that school is really ridiculous, I think 20 teachers left last year.  My younger kids are not getting any sort of extra science exposure that is meaningful enough for the amount of anger people are expressing here. [b] The program is so crappy right now that I can’t imagine them trying to say it could get worse.[/b]  My third grader doesn’t know what a simple machine is, she can’t list the steps in the scientific method.  It’s not stem or steam or anything beyond a vanilla elementary school.
 I was there when they made the big push to remodel investigation station.  At the time people thought it was strange and over the top, but ms b pushed extensively for it.  She’s the one who sent out all those fundraising emails.  Based off of other people’s comments here, the push makes sense since she was likely getting pressure to convert the lab to classrooms.  If that’s true, it’s really despicable that she was allowed to do that.   [/quote]

If being a “vanilla elementary school” means ASFS is now “crappy,” maybe instead of focusing so much on ASFS’s program, we should put whatever money is available for things like moving a science lab into elevating the programs in all of the “crappy” “vanilla elementary schools” instead.[/quote]

Then why are you fighting so hard?  If it's so crappy, you should be over the moon for boundary changes.  Odd how your message shifts depending on the way the APS wind is blowing these days.  Wait til they change their minds again and we'll see you claiming how amazing it is that you couldn't possibly go to any other school than that one.[/quote]
Im not fighting hard to stay at the school because I care about science.  Asfs was always a normal school, I’m just calling out the posters here talking about it’s “program” that the program isn’t what a lot of people would consider a stem or science focused program.  It’s been diluted for years now, which has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of teachers have left in the past couple of years.  Even if it stays where it is, there’s a good chance that there won’t be much of a science focus in a few years as it becomes a true neighborhood school with no more transfers.
I’m fighting because key and asfs are the only two elementary school sites I can walk to.  I live in an urban neighborhood, and would like to keep being able to walk to school.  
The anger on this board is ridiculous.  It’s an echo chamber for the same angry people.  There haven’t been new developments for months.  Why are we still talking about this? [/quote]

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