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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do [b]Asian schools[/b] that have almost homogeneous student applicants base admissions solely on grades? [/quote] As in University of Beijing?[/quote] Yes, do they ever reject students with high grades in favor of someone who has a more interesting biography with lower grades? Regardless of how they define "interesting". [/quote] Anyone?[/quote] I can talk to Universities in India. They will laugh you off the campus if you claim you deserve a seat because you are more "interesting". All based on grades. They do have a big "quota" for what are considered "backward" people - the traditionally lower castes. However, much like here the system is now gamed where everyone other than the Brahmins claim "backwardness" in some shape or form and get in. AFAIK, China, Singapore, Europe all base admissions on academic merit, not some criteria someone dreams up to keep out, say Jews or Asians.[/quote] OK, so you are saying that in India, medical school admissions are based solely on grades? Anyone can get in if their grades are high enough? No interview? [/quote] Yes, only marks in various exams matter. And your caste is considered alongside your marks.[/quote] I think that our system is better. You have to interview prospective professionals. There are many white men with great scores who mess up interviews and are denied admissions to prestigious schools. The schools will quicker give that "spot" to a less "qualified", but adequately qualified white man. My point is that there are white and Asian kids accepted to top schools who did not have the highest scores among the applicants. That said, I know of two Indian doctors who claim that they had the nearly the highest scores in India (not easy to confirm). Anyway, they work alongside an African American doctor who was probably accepted to med school because of affirmative action. She admitted that she did not even do very well in med school. She actually did not match in the residency that she wanted. She had to sit out a year after med school to do research, then she finally got a spot. She was a good resident and passed her specialty boards easily, just like all the other doctors in the practice. Now, the two Indian men have been sued twice each for malpractice. The African American woman teaches them some of the newer techniques that the specialty is using. They still haven't caught on partly because they are unmotivated, but also possibly because they don't have the skills. There is absolutely no difference between the set in terms of clinical knowledge. In the conferences where we discuss complications, and keep records, her poor outcomes are similar to theirs. Now, the big issue: their children. One of the Indian doctor's sons flunked out of a US med school. He said he hated it. The African American doctor's kids are still under 18, but they are performing much better than she did in school. One anecdote, but real story. Sorry if this angers anyone, but it is true.[/quote]
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